Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-16 Thread Roger
Hi Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions Adam GROSZER a écrit : Hello, There is a sheet with versions for KGS 3.4.1 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tUE5Q72d4Kg1FXaacCA3EKQoutput= html Anyone for/against those versions? The open questions that remain: *

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed

2010-04-16 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Apr 15 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Fri Apr 16 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 14 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 7 from ccomb at free.fr, 1 from ct at gocept.com. Test failures - Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 668

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:29, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote: The open questions that remain: * What about pytz 2010g? I'm not sure it makes sense fixing it to a particular version at all, as you might want timezone updates separately. Just sayin'. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope,

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-16 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello, I think it's about having a known set of versions for the tests. Not that test run picks up some newer versions and the tests suddenly fail. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:29, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting

2010-04-16 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:31:32PM +0200, Christian Theune wrote: On 04/15/2010 11:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: * I've started diving into the matter of how to

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-16 Thread Christophe Combelles
Roger a écrit : Hi Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions Adam GROSZER a écrit : Hello, There is a sheet with versions for KGS 3.4.1 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tUE5Q72d4Kg1FXaacCA3EKQoutput= html Anyone for/against those versions? The open questions that remain:

Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting

2010-04-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 04/16/2010 05:18 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:31:32PM +0200, Christian Theune wrote: On 04/15/2010 11:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-4-15 17:59, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's the minutes. As I've been adventurous, I'll add a few comments: *

[Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
This is to a large part an angry rant. Sorry for that. In my effort to port zope.component to Python 3 I constantly encounter one problem that is very hard to solve: Circular dependencies. It's hard to port module A, when running the tests require module B to be ported, and module B depends on

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: This is to a large part an angry rant. Sorry for that. In my effort to port zope.component to Python 3 I constantly encounter one problem that is very hard to solve: Circular dependencies. It's hard to port module A, when

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Gary Poster
On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: ... So, with that in mind I today went on to zc.buildout, trying to port it to Python 3 by ripping out any usage of zope.testing. Also, the standard development mode for

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: ... == Suggestion 1 == I think we should deprecate zope.testing. Completely. There has been some discussion about deprecating it for something else, but I think we should just deprecate it. Just say Don't use

[Zope-dev] zope.publisher release?

2010-04-16 Thread Kevin Teague
Would someone please add me (kteague) to the zope.publisher maintainers list on PyPI, or do a new zope.publisher release? I want to get the fix for the xml-rpc hang in Grok out there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/grok/+bug/332063 ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 19:53, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote: As the author of one of those other testrunners, I can tell you that if you do this you'll find that your number one biggest problem is getting layers to work. Ah, right, layers are in zope.testing too. To actually get

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 19:35, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: == Suggestion 1 == I think we should deprecate zope.testing. Completely. There has been some discussion about deprecating it for something else, but I

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 20:40, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: How about we move out the testrunner (including updating zc.recipe.testrunner), clean out any remaining cruft, and release a new major version containing only bits used in real-world tests? Sounds like a good plan to me.

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: :mod:`zope.testing.formparser`    Parses rendered HTML forms back to datastructures.  Maybe useful    in tests which consume rendered output.    No ZTK tests use this module. I believe this may be used in tests of some

Re: [Zope-dev] Launchpad gardening

2010-04-16 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Turns out not to be too tough, given the git and mercurial examples to stare at:  lp:~tseaver/mr.developer/bzr_sources I have only tested it lightly so far, but it does seem at least to get the initial checkouts done

Re: [Zope-dev] Launchpad gardening

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Turns out not to be too tough, given the git and mercurial examples to stare at: lp:~tseaver/mr.developer/bzr_sources I have only tested it

Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes from this weeks meeting

2010-04-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-4-16 17:34, Christian Theune wrote: On 04/16/2010 05:18 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: I've attached the output of pdftotext (from xpdf-utils on a debian system) Seems pretty clean to me. Long lines aren't wrapped (a quick pass through fmt seems to do little damage, though: attached as

[Zope-dev] Repository for the zope mail summarizer

2010-04-16 Thread Patrick Gerken
Hi, I wanted to look into the script that summarizes the mails sent to zope-test. The best code I found is this http://cvs.zope.org/Packages/TestScripts/ but I suspect that there are newer versions, I just don't know where. I'd like modifiy the script to understand status mails from buildbots

Re: [Zope-dev] Repository for the zope mail summarizer

2010-04-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Patrick Gerken do3cc...@googlemail.com wrote: And who runs that script atm? Talk to testmaster Stefan Holek irc: lurker, stefan (at) epy dot co dot at He wrote the script and runs it. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 20:43, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 20:40, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: How about we move out the testrunner (including updating zc.recipe.testrunner), clean out any remaining cruft, and release a new major version

Re: [Zope-dev] Launchpad gardening

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Turns out not to be too tough, given the git and mercurial examples to stare at: lp:~tseaver/mr.developer/bzr_sources I have

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: :mod:`zope.testing.formparser` Parses rendered HTML forms back to datastructures. Maybe useful in tests which consume rendered output. No ZTK

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 20:43, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 20:40, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: How about we move out the testrunner (including updating zc.recipe.testrunner),

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 22:44, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: We will have factored the reusable bits (which we know get re-used) into a smaller, cleaner package, which should (I hope) be easier to port. Other packages which depend on only those bits should be more easily testable

[Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This kind of goes with Lennart's frustration about trying to port the ZTK packages, or a core subset, to Python 3. I would like to see the ZTK packages have really excellent documentation, as well as 100% test coverage. I think we need to look at

Re: [Zope-dev] Circular dependency hell.

2010-04-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi Lennart co, On 17 April 2010 02:38, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 19:53, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote: As the author of one of those other testrunners, I can tell you that if you do this you'll find that your number one biggest problem is getting

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 17 April 2010 09:41, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This kind of goes with Lennart's frustration about trying to port the ZTK packages, or a core subset, to Python 3. I would like to see the ZTK packages have really excellent