[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 65 OK, 29 Failed, 5 Unknown

2011-03-20 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sat Mar 19 12:00:00 2011 UTC to Sun Mar 20 12:00:00 2011 UTC. There were 99 messages: 8 from Zope Tests, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 29 from buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 8 from ccomb at free.fr, 5 from ct at gocept.com, 45 from jdriessen at

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: ... I would be much more interested in seeing a working WebOb to zope.publisher bridge. I know Jim(?) Yes. has done some initial work on that. I think it would make an interesting PSF project, since it

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Getting ZCA/ZTK to run on PyPy is probably easier, and actually more useful. Maybe someone would want to mentor that? This is another porting project. If I was a student, I wouldn't find it very interesting to port some

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to possibly mentor some zope.* project for Python Software Foundation this year. Here's another idea. Problem === ZTK projects use ZCML too much.

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 March 2011 13:46, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: I think we ought to come up with a much cleaner way of defining default configuration. (Pyramid does this by passing default values in adapter calls, but I

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the  code.  The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by  pythonic.  I remember Grok being more implicit than skimming the  links above suggest. Perhaps Grok has

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/20/11 16:00 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by pythonic. I remember Grok being more implicit than

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/20/11 16:03 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 3/20/11 16:00 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by pythonic.

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the  code.  The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by  pythonic.  I remember Grok

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, On 20 March 2011 15:00, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the  code.  The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by  pythonic.  I remember Grok

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, On 20 March 2011 15:29, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: I think you cannot avoid this, if you want to support an explicit configuration phase. Otherwise the first import of a module could occur at any point at runtime and have a configuration side-effect like registering a new view.

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: I disagree.  First, the notion that you'd import at run time is pretty odd, unless you count start-up in runtime. Right, sorry. I'm used to writing add-ons for an application. In this environment my code isn't in charge of the

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/20/2011 09:46 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: Problem === ZTK projects use ZCML too much. Ideally, ZCML should only have to be used when we want to override something. Solution sketch === I think we ought to come up with a

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Johannes Raggam
- The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by pythonic. I remember Grok being more implicit than skimming the links above suggest. Perhaps Grok has has become more explicit than I remember. +10^something