Re: [Zope-dev] DBObjects 1.0 and Demos for Proiektor ZQuest released (site back online!)

2001-04-07 Thread Joachim Werner

Hi!

Sorry for the site going up and down all the time. We experienced very
strange Zope stability problems. But it seems to have been up for the last
couple of hours now ;-)

Joachim Werner



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[Zope-dev] DBObjects 1.0 and Demos for Proiektor ZQuest released

2001-04-05 Thread Stephan Richter

Hello everyone,

iuveno AG, Ingolstadt Germany, has made available a demo and products page, 
releasing several products:

THE LINK: http://demo.iuveno-net.de/

1. DBObjects 1.0 - DBObjects is a framework that maps relational data to a 
Zope object tree. It provides many features (such as SQL Method 
auto-generation) and saves up to 95% development time on object creation 
with relational data. API Documentation, a Demo, Feature List and so on are 
available on the site.

2. Proiektor - Proiektor is a groupware and project management system 
developed by iuveno. It is based on DBObjects and implements a nice set of 
features with some unique design ideas. But see yourself...

3. ZQuest - ZQuest was originally written for a university as testing tool 
and is now also developed by iuveno AG. It has a good set of features, 
especially for scientific questions. ZQuest uses DBObjects of course. If 
you are interested, click on the link above ...

4. CMS - Our Content Management System is coming soon with a true 
user-friendly management interface...

ALL THESE PRODUCTS ARE OPEN SOURCE!!! Please feel free to contact me any 
time via E-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or via phone at 
+1-901-230-ZOPE (9673).

I hope you enjoy!

Regards,
Stephan


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CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student
Web2k - Web Design/Development  Technical Project Management


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Re: [Zope-dev] DBObjects 1.0 and Demos for Proiektor ZQuest released

2001-04-05 Thread ender


hi, 

this seems pretty cool, and i'd like to thank stephen and iuveno for 
releasing it, but the release seems pretty half-baked.

the website
1. dbobjects demo is not existent
2. the documentation for projektor is password protected
3. there are no downloads apparent for anything but dbobjects

dbobjects distro
1. no __init__.py, hence not usable in zope without guessing your own.
2. the DBFolderishObject references a SQLTools module that is not present
   - it does not seem to use this so i just removed the reference.

documentation
1. it should be explicitly stated that these are for subclassing in python
and the name restrictions imposed.

dbobjects arch
1. no use of volatile variables to minimize read/writes to db.
2. the use of exec can lead to only sorts of ref count problems, using
of __imp__  (or imp) would probably be better. 

hopefully some of the above can be fixed, and then i'm sure these products 
will see some use in the zope community.

cheers

kapil


Hello everyone,

iuveno AG, Ingolstadt Germany, has made available a demo and products page,
releasing several products:

THE LINK: http://demo.iuveno-net.de/

1. DBObjects 1.0 - DBObjects is a framework that maps relational data to a
Zope object tree. It provides many features (such as SQL Method
auto-generation) and saves up to 95% development time on object creation
with relational data. API Documentation, a Demo, Feature List and so on are
available on the site.

2. Proiektor - Proiektor is a groupware and project management system
developed by iuveno. It is based on DBObjects and implements a nice set of
features with some unique design ideas. But see yourself...

3. ZQuest - ZQuest was originally written for a university as testing tool
and is now also developed by iuveno AG. It has a good set of features,
especially for scientific questions. ZQuest uses DBObjects of course. If
you are interested, click on the link above ...

4. CMS - Our Content Management System is coming soon with a true
user-friendly management interface...

ALL THESE PRODUCTS ARE OPEN SOURCE!!! Please feel free to contact me any
time via E-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or via phone at
+1-901-230-ZOPE (9673).

I hope you enjoy!

Regards,
Stephan


--
Stephan Richter
CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student
Web2k - Web Design/Development  Technical Project Management


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Re: [Zope-dev] DBObjects 1.0 and Demos for Proiektor ZQuest released

2001-04-05 Thread Joachim Werner

Hi!

First of all, sorry if the http://demo.iuveno-net.de server is not available
from time to time. We are experiencing a very strange Zope stability problem
that has not been localized yet.

 1. dbobjects demo is not existent
Yes, it is.

 2. the documentation for projektor is password protected
Right. This is documented on the site now. The docs are not publicly
available yet
as they are not completely "cleaned up" from customer-specific stuff yet.

 3. there are no downloads apparent for anything but dbobjects
Right, but better telling the world that we are GOING TO publish something
than just keeping it secret, yes?

 dbobjects distro
 1. no __init__.py, hence not usable in zope without guessing your own.
The documentation says that it is not a product package yet. But this will
change soon, sorry.

 2. the DBFolderishObject references a SQLTools module that is not present
- it does not seem to use this so i just removed the reference.
Yep, I think this is an unnecessary reference. But ask Stephan to be sure
;-)

 documentation
 1. it should be explicitly stated that these are for subclassing in python
 and the name restrictions imposed.
Will be fixed.

 dbobjects arch
 1. no use of volatile variables to minimize read/writes to db.
 2. the use of exec can lead to only sorts of ref count problems, using
 of __imp__  (or imp) would probably be better.
That's what we opened it up for: Feedback on how to improve it ... Thanks!

 hopefully some of the above can be fixed, and then i'm sure these products
 will see some use in the zope community.

 kapil

Thanks again for the feedback!

Regarding the code downloads: I think code for the CMS stuff will be
publicly available rather soon. We had the ZClass version on the site
already, but now it is just a couple of days before a "real" Python-based
version will be ready for Alpha release.

For ZQuest and Proiektor we might not offer a PUBLIC download before the
code is reasonably cleaned up. but for "hard-core" developers who can live
with "half-baked" stuff as you put it: Stephan can give you the code. We
will also set up a CVS, but this will not be done in the next couple of days
...

Cheers,

Joachim Werner
CEO iuveno AG



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