Re: [Zope-dev] Ids starting with _

2000-08-01 Thread Chris Withers
"R. David Murray" wrote: > > 1) Why does SimpleItem still have this?! Since so much, IIRC, is derived > > from SimpleItem.Item, surely this goes very much against the grain of > > 'everything should be protected unless I say otherwise'? > > If you read the docs about the 2.2 security changes, you

Re: [Zope-dev] Ids starting with _

2000-07-31 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > Almost all zope-manageable classes (and certainly Folders, that Dieter > > mentioned) use the old rule. This happens because they derive from > > SimpleItem.Item, which has __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1 > > 1) Wh

Re: [Zope-dev] Ids starting with _

2000-07-31 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: > Almost all zope-manageable classes (and certainly Folders, that Dieter > mentioned) use the old rule. This happens because they derive from > SimpleItem.Item, which has __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1 1) Why does SimpleItem still have this?! Since so much, IIR

Re: [Zope-dev] Ids starting with _

2000-07-31 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:38:44 +0100, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dieter Maurer wrote: >> > I wonder why starting folders with _ is so bad in Zope? > >> In the time, when everything was allowed what was not explicitely >> forbidden, an easy way was necessary to forbid access. Jim >>

[Zope-dev] Ids starting with _

2000-07-30 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: > > I wonder why starting folders with _ is so bad in Zope? > In the time, when everything was allowed what was not explicitely > forbidden, an easy way was necessary to forbid access. Jim > (and, therefore, Zope) used: > > anything starting with "_" is private: no DTML a