Re: [Zope-dev] Import from upload?

2000-06-05 Thread Evan Simpson

- Original Message -
From: Toby Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I dont think that's going to fly. It's perfectly ok for a persistant
> object to contain something that shouldn't be creatable.

True enough.  Further thought has made me realize that a persistent object
could contain only valid instances and values, yet still subvert security
simply by playing with normally inaccessible instance attributes (eg. import
an acl_users containing a user with roles you don't possess).

Doing things right would involve inspecting each unpickled object minutely
to make sure it didn't have a bomb in its guts.

Security is hard :-/

Cheers,

Evan @ digicool & 4-am


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Re: [Zope-dev] Import from upload?

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson

- Original Message -
From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sin Hang Kin wrote:
> > In web hosting environment like imeme.net, It is painful and unsecure
for
> > all to share the import directory for updating.
>
> And it's insecure for the service providor to allow importign over the
> web :(

Yesterday, Jim actually came up with the hint of the start of how web import
could be made secure.  It should be possibly to write an unpickler which
consults the security machinery and ensures that the pickle doesn't
instantiate anything that the user doesn't have permission to make.  It may
be quite a while before someone actually writes this, unless one of you
folks wants to give it a shot ;-)

Cheers,

Evan @ digicool & 4-am


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Re: [Zope-dev] Import from upload?

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Sin Hang Kin wrote:
> In web hosting environment like imeme.net, It is painful and unsecure for
> all to share the import directory for updating.

And it's insecure for the service providor to allow importign over the
web :(

Chris

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[Zope-dev] Import from upload?

2000-05-25 Thread Sin Hang Kin

Hi,

I have just come acroos this idea of having zope accept the import file from
an upload form instead of having it from the server directory.

In web hosting environment like imeme.net, It is painful and unsecure for
all to share the import directory for updating.


Rgs,

Kent Sin
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kentsin.weblogs.com
kentsin.imeme.net



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