I added something to the Management Interface Quick Fix wiki item, but it seems to have vanished. My proposal was that the tree not automatically sort the items alphabetically. It should be up to the ObjectManager class and its ilk to sort those items in its tpValues method. That way, when I extend ObjectManager, or provide any other ObjectManagerish object, I have the option to order the items in a sequence that makes more sense than by the alphabet. It would appear to be a simple enough change - add the sort to ObjectManager, ZClass and HelpSys and remove it from manage_menu.dtml Richard -- Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Software Developer, Bizar Software (www.bizarsoftware.com.au) _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )