Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Charlie Clark wrote: > As you know, I don't use Plone either. I'm also evil but in a different > way! The recipe just sets up a Zope 2 instance, which I believe is a bit > tricky to work on all platforms. It's a piece of piss and needs no special recipes: http://docs.zope.org/zope2/releases/2.12/INSTALL-buildout.html#creating-a-buildout-based-zope-instance cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Am 04.08.2010, 11:15 Uhr, schrieb Chris Withers : > yes, which it isn't for me, since it's evil and I'm not using Plone Well, I said it was the idiot's guide... As you know, I don't use Plone either. I'm also evil but in a different way! The recipe just sets up a Zope 2 instance, which I believe is a bit tricky to work on all platforms. That said the recipe could probably be a simpler. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > If you have a package, which isn't in the "Products" namespace and > still want its initialize to be called, you need to add some bits to > your configure.zcml: > > Right, that's the bit I was after :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > Okay, but what about: > > > > ...causes Whatever/__init__.py's initialize method to get called? Yes. Eggified products behave in the same way as code dumped into one of the "products" directories. If you have a package, which isn't in the "Products" namespace and still want its initialize to be called, you need to add some bits to your configure.zcml: > Yeah, but it's setuptools namespace packages magic that makes sure __path__, > which the old Zope 2 code iterates over, is set up correctly, right? Sure. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > Baiju M wrote: >>> >>> zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're >>> good. >> >> There is an assumption that plone.recipe.zope2instance [1] is used >> to create instances from Buildout. > > yes, which it isn't for me, since it's evil and I'm not using Plone ;-) The plone.recipe.zope2instance is not Plone specific. It works well for us. BTW, there is related recipe: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.recipe.zeoserver Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Baiju M wrote: >> zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're >> good. > > There is an assumption that plone.recipe.zope2instance [1] is used > to create instances from Buildout. yes, which it isn't for me, since it's evil and I'm not using Plone ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Chris Withers wrote: >> What does a "regular ZCML slug" look like? > > My first Google hit is this > http://worldcookery.com/files/ploneconf05-five/step2.html :) yeah yeah... Okay, but what about: ...causes Whatever/__init__.py's initialize method to get called? >> Is this setuptools namespace package magic making things work or is there >> explicit code in Zope that does this? > > It's not really setuptools specific. It's just the same old code that > does "import Products" and then iterates over everything it finds. Yeah, but it's setuptools namespace packages magic that makes sure __path__, which the old Zope 2 code iterates over, is set up correctly, right? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Charlie Clark wrote: > Am 04.08.2010, 10:56 Uhr, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl : > >> In essence: If your egg is in the "Products" namespace you don't need to >> do anything after adding it e.g. to the list of eggs for a Zope instance >> in your buildout.cfg. The product will be recognized, installed, and any >> configure.zcml in the root picked up automatically. > > ie. in buildout just putting > eggs = Products.MailTemplates > > should work fine. As will pip install Products.MailTemplates (just tested > against Products.CMFDefault) > >> That's one reason I stick to that namespace for anything that is indeed >> a Zope 2 Product. > > OTOH if you don't want to stick with Products. you will need to add > something like > > zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're > good. There is an assumption that plone.recipe.zope2instance [1] is used to create instances from Buildout. [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.recipe.zope2instance Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > What does a "regular ZCML slug" look like? My first Google hit is this http://worldcookery.com/files/ploneconf05-five/step2.html :) > Is this setuptools namespace package magic making things work or is there > explicit code in Zope that does this? It's not really setuptools specific. It's just the same old code that does "import Products" and then iterates over everything it finds. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Am 04.08.2010, 10:56 Uhr, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl : > In essence: If your egg is in the "Products" namespace you don't need to > do anything after adding it e.g. to the list of eggs for a Zope instance > in your buildout.cfg. The product will be recognized, installed, and any > configure.zcml in the root picked up automatically. ie. in buildout just putting eggs = Products.MailTemplates should work fine. As will pip install Products.MailTemplates (just tested against Products.CMFDefault) > That's one reason I stick to that namespace for anything that is indeed > a Zope 2 Product. OTOH if you don't want to stick with Products. you will need to add something like zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're good. Hope this idiot's guide helps. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/4/10 10:52 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Chris Withers wrote: >> I'm in the process of egg-ifying some Zope 2 Products of mine (first up >> is MailTemplates) and I'm curious as to how add-in products work in an >> egg-based Zope setup. >> >> Do I need to include anything in zope.conf or some zcml somewhere? > If your package is a namespace package in the 'Products' namespace, > then it will be picked up automatically, once added to the PYTHONPATH. In essence: If your egg is in the "Products" namespace you don't need to do anything after adding it e.g. to the list of eggs for a Zope instance in your buildout.cfg. The product will be recognized, installed, and any configure.zcml in the root picked up automatically. That's one reason I stick to that namespace for anything that is indeed a Zope 2 Product. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkxZKzQACgkQRAx5nvEhZLK7TgCeI2n6Y+xjagXyPZHeNuEII2V3 xMUAoIJHoErxjlAjZRWYPME8tEPM1S2O =IYFz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Hanno Schlichting wrote: > For a general Python package to be picked up, you would need to add a > regular ZCML slug into the etc/package-includes directory of your > instance. What does a "regular ZCML slug" look like? > If your package is a namespace package in the 'Products' namespace, > then it will be picked up automatically, once added to the PYTHONPATH. Is this setuptools namespace package magic making things work or is there explicit code in Zope that does this? > This is triggered by the "five:loadProducts" and > "five:loadProductsOverrides" directives in your instances site.zcml. > The code for those directives is either in Products.Five or OFS > depending on which version of Zope2 you use. Thanks for this! Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Hi. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > I'm in the process of egg-ifying some Zope 2 Products of mine (first up > is MailTemplates) and I'm curious as to how add-in products work in an > egg-based Zope setup. > > Do I need to include anything in zope.conf or some zcml somewhere? For a general Python package to be picked up, you would need to add a regular ZCML slug into the etc/package-includes directory of your instance. If your package is a namespace package in the 'Products' namespace, then it will be picked up automatically, once added to the PYTHONPATH. This is triggered by the "five:loadProducts" and "five:loadProductsOverrides" directives in your instances site.zcml. The code for those directives is either in Products.Five or OFS depending on which version of Zope2 you use. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
Hi All, I'm in the process of egg-ifying some Zope 2 Products of mine (first up is MailTemplates) and I'm curious as to how add-in products work in an egg-based Zope setup. Do I need to include anything in zope.conf or some zcml somewhere? If not how are products picked up? Where can I find that code that does this? Oh, and more in passing that actual hope, are there any docs anywhere on this? :-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
