Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-07-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Note that this article is now available without a subscription at http://lwn.net/Articles/139770/ On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 23:08 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: From what I read from Rob in an interview in LWN, membership to the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-07-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Oops, wrong URL! This is the right one: http://lwn.net/Articles/139955/ On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 23:08 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: From what I read from Rob in an interview in LWN, membership to the foundation will be

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-18 Thread kit blake
Wow, what a difference two days makes. I heard about the ZF announcement by telephone two mornings ago, and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It solves a problem we've been worrying about for years. It means we can sit across from a nervous IT director, and when he asks dubious questions about the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
kit blake wrote: Wow, what a difference two days makes. I heard about the ZF announcement by telephone two mornings ago, and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It solves a problem we've been worrying about for years. It means we can sit across from a nervous IT director, and when he asks dubious

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-18 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: kit blake wrote: Wow, what a difference two days makes. I heard about the ZF announcement by telephone two mornings ago, and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It solves a problem we've been worrying about for years. It means we can sit across from a nervous

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more vendor-neutral. I am confident that this will go through. This almost sounds as if the Foundation

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Juni 2005 13:04:17 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more vendor-neutral. I am confident that this will go through. This

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more vendor-neutral. I am confident that

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 17. Juni 2005 13:04:17 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Juni 2005 13:29:33 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 17. Juni 2005 13:04:17 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 17 June 2005 07:16, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Then when I look at the members of the Plone foundation ( http://plone.org/foundation/about/board/list ) I only see companies, except that ZC is not represented. So even if every member gets a vote, how much does that vote count in the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Everitt
On Jun 17, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: However, most members do not write code during their free time, do they? What happens when the members write code under working hours, their respective employers must well have something to say about it? The PF actually did research

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Everitt
On Jun 17, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 17 June 2005 07:16, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Then when I look at the members of the Plone foundation ( http://plone.org/foundation/about/board/list ) I only see companies, except that ZC is not represented. So even if every

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Everitt
On Jun 17, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Stefane Fermigier wrote: Paul Everitt wrote: Other foundations approach things a bit differently. (I did quite a bit of research on this for the Plone Foundation.) Eric has done some research recently on the different successful Open Source / Free

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:52 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: Also, I agree with Andreas and Philipp that developers should be members, not companies. Otherwise, how could I, as an independent developer, have a say? BTW, this is also positive for companies, since they can have several

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Paul Everitt wrote: Other foundations approach things a bit differently. (I did quite a bit of research on this for the Plone Foundation.) Eric has done some research recently on the different successful Open Source / Free Software foundations out there that have the mission to develop and

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Stefane Fermigier wrote: I hope we will be able to discuss this further next week, but also that these discussions will be able to procede with the technical side of things during the sprint next week. s/with/alongside/ Sorry for my poor english. Remember that some of us are not native

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:52 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: Also, I agree with Andreas and Philipp that developers should be members, not companies. Otherwise, how could I, as an independent developer, have a say? BTW, this is also positive for companies, since they can

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:52 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: Also, I agree with Andreas and Philipp that developers should be members, not companies. Otherwise, how could I, as an independent developer, have a say? BTW, this is also positive for companies, since they can

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: From what I read from Rob in an interview in LWN, membership to the foundation will be funded by membership dues. Given that any actual facts and further discussions involving ZC have been postponed to the IRC chat on

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-16 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Eric Barroca wrote: Hello, Following the announces from Zope Corporation yesterday about their willingness to create a Zope Foundation (that would manage independently Zope 2 and Zope 3 projects) and to participate actively in the Z3ECM project, I would like to express briefly Nuxeo's