[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
[Fred Drake] >> I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test >> on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time. [Paul Winkler] > Maybe you do, but it really is a FAQ, and that's the consensus response > from the chorus every time it comes up on the main zope list, so I feel > justified :-) It's the right answer, too. No "security audit" has been done against Python 2.4 for Zope use yet, and Zope Corp won't officially bless 2.4 for use with Zope until that's been done. Note that the story is different for ZODB: Python 2.4+ is officially blessed for "standalone" ZODB use. This is one advantage of keeping DTML out of the storage layer . ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos. > > Yeah, but improvements are improvements! > > On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to > > doc/FAQ.txt ? > > I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test > on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time. Maybe you do, but it really is a FAQ, and that's the consensus response from the chorus every time it comes up on the main zope list, so I feel justified :-) -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:40:41PM -0400, Tim Peters wrote: > [Paul Winkler] > > Holy crap, FAQ.txt is rally crufty. > > It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap. > > Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch. > > I should make a branch for this. > > I vote you check in changes instead, until you run out of time. OK, done on 2_8-branch and merged to trunk. > Every > improvement will lessen confusion for countless multitudes until the > end of time. Perfection is overrated <0.9 wink>. Yeah, e.g. even if we never get our butts in gear to "release" it, Chris's 2.7 version of the Zope Book is still vastly better than the 2.6 version (which was vastly better than 2.5, etc.) > Thanks for doing it, BTW! Some things get so out of date that > paralysis is the natural reaction -- but a chain of small improvements > can turn that around. Agreed. If I had nothing else to do I would poke around in that directory some more. I think WEBSERVERS.txt could use some attention, and probably others too. Sadly there's other things in doc/ that could use the attention, and I have to get back to Real Work now. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos. Yeah, but improvements are improvements! On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to > doc/FAQ.txt ? I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
[Paul Winkler] > Holy crap, FAQ.txt is rally crufty. > It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap. > Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch. > I should make a branch for this. I vote you check in changes instead, until you run out of time. Every improvement will lessen confusion for countless multitudes until the end of time. Perfection is overrated <0.9 wink>. Thanks for doing it, BTW! Some things get so out of date that paralysis is the natural reaction -- but a chain of small improvements can turn that around. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:07:51PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos. > > While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to > doc/FAQ.txt ? (snip) Holy crap, FAQ.txt is rally crufty. It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap. Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch. I should make a branch for this. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos. While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to doc/FAQ.txt ? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Index: FAQ.txt === --- FAQ.txt (revision 30745) +++ FAQ.txt (working copy) @@ -194,7 +194,35 @@ (yay) it's var/z2.pid, for pcgi (not so yay), it's var/pcgi.pid. -4. After moving my old Data.fs to Zope 2.8 I get an + Upgrading from Earlier Versions of Zope + +1. How can I upgrade to Zope 2.8? + + The usual procedure when installing a new version of Zope is: + + - Create a new instance (see doc/INSTALL.txt). + + - Copy the var/Data.fs file from your old instance into your + new instance's var/ directory. (It is best to do this while + the old instance is not running; alternatively, you can + use repozo.py as described at + http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/FileStorageBackup + to make a live backup, then create a new Data.fs from that + backup in your new instance.) + + Keep your old Data.fs in the old instance as a backup. + + - Copy the Products and Extensions directories from your old + instance into the new instance. + + - Update etc/zope.conf with any changes you made in your + old instance. (Likewise for zeo.conf if you are using zeo.) + + - Start the new instance. (Be sure the old instance is not running.) + + - Update any ZCatalogs as described below. + +2. After moving my old Data.fs to Zope 2.8 I get an "AttributeError, _length" when trying to use the ZCatalog? In Zope 2.8 we cleaned up the index implementations and therefore @@ -224,6 +252,25 @@ converted and reindexed" +3. CMF doesn't work! + +Check that you have a recent stable version of CMF. +You need at least CMF-1.4.8. CMF is available at +http://www.zope.org/Products/CMF/ + + +4. Plone doesn't work! + +As of the release of Zope 2.8.0, Plone does not support +Zope 2.8 yet. Check http://www.plone.org for updates. + + +5. I'm using Python 2.4 and I'm having a problem... + + Zope 2.8 has not been tested with Python 2.4. + Please use Python 2.3. + + General ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:27:15PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > --On 10. Juni 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch? > > > >It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time! > > > > yeah...countdown is running :-) > > -aj Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
--On 10. Juni 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch? It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time! yeah...countdown is running :-) -aj pgp5JPdugjiqL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch? It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time! -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Coders] Zope 2.8 coming this weekend
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:24:08PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: > Heads up for the 2.8.0 final release. My plans are to make the final > release on Saturday morning. So any further changes should be done by > tomorrow at the latest. > > Cheers, > -aj Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch? I'm playing with a checkout of the Zope-2_8-branch right now, and while I was looking at doc/*txt to see what if anything is said about migrating to 2.8, I noticed some really trivial typos which I'd gladly check in (and merge to the trunk too). 5710 unit tests... holy cow. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )