[Zope-dev] Re: AW: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

2007-11-29 Thread Daniel Nouri
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 btw, I think since we use buildout, it's not possible to
 implement mixed Zope3/Five packages bacause setup has to
 define the Five packages too. right?
 
 In general, it makes the reuse of a package difficult if it depends on
 Zope 2 stuff (incl. Five).

As Malthe explains, the implementation does not depend on Five, the
tests do.  Is he supposed to put the Five dependent tests into a
different package?  I think there's little to gain from that, and the
added burden of having two packages.

And, I don't see why patching a base class that both Zope 3 and Zope 2
share is a magic dependency.


Daniel

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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Roger Ineichen wrote:

Hi Malthe


Betreff: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

Log message for revision 81997:
  Initial import.


[...]

+   from Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile import 
+ ZopeTwoPageTemplateFile


I really like what you are doing, cool ideas!

But I also have a question. Should we not use another
namspace for Zope packages which depend on Five or
other packages then zope.* or z3c.*?


We do have the 'five' namespace for things like that, by the way (so far 
it's used by five.intid and five.localsitemanager, for instance).



I'm not sure about that, it's just a question.
What do you think about a namespace called z5c or 
something like that? I guess it's easier to explain

the different core concepts if we separate them
in base libraries.

Or is it possible to skip the Five dependency and 
implement Five support in a second layer/package?


-1 to magic or weak dependencies.
+1 to test what you fly and fly what you test


btw, I think since we use buildout, it's not possible to
implement mixed Zope3/Five packages bacause setup has to
define the Five packages too. right?


In general, it makes the reuse of a package difficult if it depends on 
Zope 2 stuff (incl. Five).


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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

2007-11-28 Thread Alexander Limi

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:45:10 -0800, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-1 to magic or weak dependencies.
+1 to test what you fly and fly what you test


I agree. In this case it would make sense to have five.jbot. If
everyone's in favor, I can split it out like that. It's an interesting
situation though because the package in question does not have any
code that depends on zope 2 in any way.


While we're on a renaming spree here, why jbot? (I know, Just a Bunch of  
Templates)


My associations go to IRC or spam bots immediately. :)

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

2007-11-28 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Malthe Borch wrote:
  -1 to magic or weak dependencies.
  +1 to test what you fly and fly what you test

 I agree. In this case it would make sense to have five.jbot. If
 everyone's in favor, I can split it out like that. It's an interesting
 situation though because the package in question does not have any
 code that depends on zope 2 in any way.

+1

Regards,
Stephan
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