[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-23 Thread Martin Aspeli
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let's just build a first nice zope.org with subfolders explaining the different projects because it's important to have just *something*. At least. Sure, that's fine. But that's just

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:58:02PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let's just build a first nice zope.org with subfolders explaining the different projects because it's important to have

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-19 Thread Martin Aspeli
Maerteijn wrote: I'm thinking about volunteering for the zope2 section, but I already can say that I'm not an expert on all facets of zope2. However, helping out is the main concern now so something is better than nothing. Absolutely. I don't think you need to be an expert to do a good job. In

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Yeah, I know this is really a me too post, but I think we should err on the side of conventional for our website. We can't go from out-of-date boring to cutting edge hip in one giant leap; it won't be believable.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-08 Thread Chris Withers
Martin Aspeli wrote: Yes. That's the point. It's vanilla Plone (well, one custom content type for the feature that fronts each section, but it's trivial) with a simple skin, not the FrankePlone that runs the old site. As a case in point, Wichert upgraded it from 3.0 to 3.1rc in about ten

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chris Withers wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Yes. That's the point. It's vanilla Plone (well, one custom content type for the feature that fronts each section, but it's trivial) with a simple skin, not the FrankePlone that runs the old site. As a case in point, Wichert upgraded

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Aspeli
Chris Withers wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Yes. That's the point. It's vanilla Plone (well, one custom content type for the feature that fronts each section, but it's trivial) with a simple skin, not the FrankePlone that runs the old site. As a case in point, Wichert upgraded it from 3.0 to

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] A few frills here and there are permitted, of course. Actually, no frills please. They just come back to bite us every damned time. It looks like we're gonna get lumbered with Plone again but can we please please please make sure it's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 7, 2008, at 00:20 , Alexander Limi wrote: - Try not to be too clever with the Taste/Get and other links. People actually scan for links that are similar from other projects, and having to interpret/understand them is confusing. +1 - The list of companies using Zope includes

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-07 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Alexander Limi wrote: [snip] - Try not to be too clever with the Taste/Get and other links. People actually scan for links that are similar from other projects, and having to interpret/understand them is confusing. I would definitely switch Taste to Examples, and possibly Get to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-07 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Yeah, I know this is really a me too post, but I think we should err on the side of conventional for our website. We can't go from out-of-date boring to cutting edge hip in one giant leap; it won't be believable. Let's stick with what people know from other sites, and

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-07 Thread Martin Aspeli
Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Yeah, I know this is really a me too post, but I think we should err on the side of conventional for our website. We can't go from out-of-date boring to cutting edge hip in one giant leap; it won't be believable. Let's stick with what people know

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-06 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:52:07 -0700, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we need people to help contribute content, review the content that's already there and tie up a few loose ends. You can see current state of play here: http://zode01.lovelysystems.com. Awesome! It looks great,

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
Alexander Limi wrote: On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:52:07 -0700, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we need people to help contribute content, review the content that's already there and tie up a few loose ends. You can see current state of play here: http://zode01.lovelysystems.com.

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Carduner wrote: I'm wondering where the Documentation section is? I'd like to volunteer for *that* section. By the way, the design looks pretty nice. There's one (called Learn) for each project, i.e. zope 2, zope 3, cmf, zodb. Which one would you like to contribute to? Martin --

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Carduner
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Carduner wrote: I'm wondering where the Documentation section is? I'd like to volunteer for *that* section. By the way, the design looks pretty nice. There's one (called Learn) for each project, i.e. zope

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Carduner wrote: On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Carduner wrote: I'm wondering where the Documentation section is? I'd like to volunteer for *that* section. By the way, the design looks pretty nice. There's one (called Learn) for each

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Carduner
On Apr 5, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no content that isn't visible to anonymous on the site. Basically, we originally thought we would have one documentation/learn section for all Zope technologies. However, it seemed to make more sense to have a

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Carduner wrote: On Apr 5, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no content that isn't visible to anonymous on the site. Basically, we originally thought we would have one documentation/learn section for all Zope technologies. However, it seemed to make more

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Kent Tenney
Look at Sphinx for providing brilliant access to ReST doc. http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ doing no more than adding a .. module:: modname directive to a ReST file causes it to be converted to html, latex or pdf indexed and searchable. placing modname in the .. toctree:: directive creates the proper

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
Kent Tenney wrote: Look at Sphinx for providing brilliant access to ReST doc. http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ I think looking at Sphinx is definitely a worthwhile effort. That said, I agree with Martin that we shouldn't let the new website effort be held up by (or distracted by) technological

[Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martijn Faassen wrote: Kent Tenney wrote: Look at Sphinx for providing brilliant access to ReST doc. http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ I think looking at Sphinx is definitely a worthwhile effort. That said, I agree with Martin that we shouldn't let the new website effort be held up by (or distracted