Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-18 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
"R. David Murray" wrote: This means you can do things like have (my example) a Paradox database of books, authors, and a books-to-authors map, and have Author and Book objects in the system such that a Book has a list of its Author objects and the Author has a list of its Book objects, all

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Joachim Werner wrote: And, instead of switching back-ends in ZPatterns, I could as well just rewrite my non-ZPattern objects to work with the new back-end, which doesn't seem to be more work. Well, do your first project both ways. It would make an interesting comparative study. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
"R. David Murray" wrote: Let me be a bit less cryptic. Design your system, and use ZPatterns, and you can defer questions about which storage suits the parts of the app until later, and can change your mind at need. For the kind of project you are embarking upon, the time needed to learn

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-17 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Doug Hellmann wrote: I've yet to see any documentation which sufficiently explains what ZPatterns is and how to use it for me to consider it in any of my projects. I've read the wiki pages and I just don't get it. Where should I be starting for enlightenment? Well, if

[Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-16 Thread Joachim Werner
Hi! We are currently developing a groupware system with Zope. As usual, the options for the storage back-end are using a SQL DB (postgres, ...) or ZODB. I know that this question has been asked a thousand times. But I'll repeat it for our specific situation: SQL or ZODB+ZCatalog, which one

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Joachim Werner wrote: SQL or ZODB+ZCatalog, which one is better? Any comments? Just the obvious one: ZPatterns. grin. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-16 Thread R. David Murray
Let me be a bit less cryptic. Design your system, and use ZPatterns, and you can defer questions about which storage suits the parts of the app until later, and can change your mind at need. For the kind of project you are embarking upon, the time needed to learn ZPatterns is well worth it.

Re: [Zope-dev] Using Zope for Groupware/Messaging applications

2001-02-16 Thread Casey Duncan
"R. David Murray" wrote: Let me be a bit less cryptic. Design your system, and use ZPatterns, and you can defer questions about which storage suits the parts of the app until later, and can change your mind at need. For the kind of project you are embarking upon, the time needed to learn