Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
Christopher Lozinski wrote at 2006-7-13 19:38 -0700: ... And that is why I am not quite able to describe what it means to upgrade ZClasses and versionning. I know what I need to do, and I can do it really fast on Zope 2, but I am quite lost when it comes to Zope 3. Thus, apparently, you want to implement something like ZClass'es in Zope 3 land. When I understand right, then Jim would not like to see ZClass'es directly in Zope 3 but rather something similar build on top of persistent modules. You can search the mailing list archives to locate the relevant messages. After this preliminary work, you would need to contact Jim to get more details about the road he envisaged. I fear some good Zope 3 knowledge would be a requirement, though... -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
When I understand right, then Jim would not like to see ZClass'es directly in Zope 3 but rather something similar build on top of persistent modules. That makes sense to me. Make a through the web editor of Zope 3. But what do I do with my Zope 2 application? ZClasses break with Zope 2.8. Perhaps I could dig through the mailing list and find the details about why Zope 2.8 breaks ZClasses. Perhaps I could fix it, so that ZClasses could work on 2.8. I am not the only one who has a Zope 2 application, and is having difficulty following the migration path. Lots of people are using relational databases with Zope 2, and are not planning on moving forward. I do not see a path from here to there. As the line from the song goes. I think your plans don't include me. Regards Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
Christopher Lozinski wrote at 2006-7-14 11:59 -0700: ... But what do I do with my Zope 2 application? ZClasses break with Zope 2.8. I do not think so. They broke for a little while (during the beta release) but then were fixed by Jim. At least we are using ZClasses (with Zope 2.8.1) and do not observe problems. -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
Christopher Lozinski wrote at 2006-7-10 19:28 -0700: I am interested in upgrading ZClasses and versioning. What does upgrading mean here? -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
Dieter Maurer wrote: Christopher Lozinski wrote at 2006-7-10 19:28 -0700: I am interested in upgrading ZClasses and versioning. What does upgrading mean here? I do not quite know what upgrading means. I think that I have the same problem that many other users have. I am quite lost when it comes to Zope 3. I do not quite know what Zope 3 is. So I cannot quite figure out what to do with my Zope 2 application. There is the Zope 3 book, but reportedly that does not explain the architecture. I thought I saw a great schema on Z3Lab.org, but it had no text, and now I cannot find it. I could have attended the Zope 3 class, I had a great time at the Zope 2 class many years ago, but since I am not convinced I am migrating to Zope 3, I was not willing to spend the money. There is the Seattle Plone conference in a few months, maybe I can go there then and get enlightenment. In the meantime, I will just stick with my well understood tools. It is hard to volunteer without clear direction. Jim Fulton was very nice in offering to bring me up to speed, but I am careful not to lean on people, so that they are willing to help when I really need it. It would just take too much of his time to bring me up to speed. It is not just a few simple things that I need to understand. I really like through the web development. It is hard to make mistakes. I can image a through the web interface on Zope 3, but since I cannot quite envision Zope3, so I have a hard time figuring out how to build the through the web interface. Based on reading others postings , I think that I am not the only one lost in Zope space. I do not have a clear vision where the core developers are going. Personally I would love to see an effort called Zope classic, to just polish up zope 2. But I do not think that is going to happen. It would be a lot like Plone without the CMF. So I am putting my energies into upgrading my application. And just leaving it on zope 2.7* So I am still interested in helping, but I am not able to move forward. I am lost in zope space. And that is why I am not quite able to describe what it means to upgrade ZClasses and versionning. I know what I need to do, and I can do it really fast on Zope 2, but I am quite lost when it comes to Zope 3. And I am sure that I am not the only one with this problem. Regards Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZClasses and Versioning
I am interested in upgrading ZClasses and versioning. Would anyone like to supervise this work, or work with me? Regards Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
