Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
Previously Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa monitor server? I'm still using and maintaining ZNagios[1] which, by now, has direct support for Munin and Nagios. If you're missing any probes/values, just tell me. Detection of the correct number of zserver threads. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: If you're missing any probes/values, just tell me. Is it possible to determine process size/memory consumption? I know Andrew has done this for Cacti, I'd imagine these would port to Nagios... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
Wichert Akkerman wrote at 2008-4-30 12:16 +0200: ... I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. I use it occationally -- in order to analyse some difficult, non deterministically occuring problems. Doing so, I can add another misfeature: it swallows exceptions. I.e. executing something which raises an exception causes the interpreter to show its prompt without showing the exception or any other output. -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa monitor server? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa monitor server? I'm still using and maintaining ZNagios[1] which, by now, has direct support for Munin and Nagios. If you're missing any probes/values, just tell me. Christian [1] http://svn.gocept.com/viewcvs/ZNagios/trunk/ -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstrasse 29 - 06112 halle (saale) - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:41 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa monitor server? I'm still using and maintaining ZNagios[1] which, by now, has direct support for Munin and Nagios. If you're missing any probes/values, just tell me. Is it possible to determine process size/memory consumption? jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
Hi, We use monit - it has the advantage that you can specify resource limits and if/when zope breaches these (or it barfs), monit auto-restarts the server ;) Alan ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:41 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua monitorserver would be a good start, but judging by the facts that it can only deal with clear-text passwords while the rest of Zope uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that. What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa monitor server? I'm still using and maintaining ZNagios[1] which, by now, has direct support for Munin and Nagios. If you're missing any probes/values, just tell me. Is it possible to determine process size/memory consumption? While I think it's a little off-topic from Wiggy's original request (I think he just wants to be able to communicate with the remote process interactively instead of having a watchdog process automatically restarting it), but supervisor restarts crashed processes and now ships with an event listener that will restart a process if it's consuming too much memory: http://supervisord.org/manual/current/memmon.html - ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
