Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
Florent Guillaume writes: Except that syslog (with all its faults) is designed for reliable logging, which means that if you send to your log 1000 lines, syslog will sync 1000 times thus trashing your disks. Decent syslog implementations (such as the one distributed with SuSE Linux) let you configure whether a log file will be synched after every message. Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the humble syslog, which is good enough to keep me happy at the moment. Except that syslog (with all its faults) is designed for reliable logging, which means that if you send to your log 1000 lines, syslog will sync 1000 times thus trashing your disks. For low volume logs I guess it's ok, but not in the general case. Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) +33 1 40 33 79 10 http://nuxeo.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
Romain Slootmaekers wrote: - Loggers (fi, file logger, db loggers, remote logger, nulllogger,...) Zope already has a filer logger, I dunno what you mean by db, remote and null loggers, perhaps you can explain? - Filters (fi on severity, on subsystem, ...) zLOG already provides this. Set STUPID_LOG_SEVERITY to the level you want Dunno about subsystem. subsystem is passed to zLOG, so maybe you could do a patch which lets subsystem also be controlled by an environment. - LogBus (central accesspoint for the logging framework, where you can (dynamically) hook your loggers, filters etc... This is prettymuch what zLOG is. Take a look at my MailingLogger product for an example. It emails log messages with the specified parameters to an address you specify and provides an example for rolling your own loggers. cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
Romain Slootmaekers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: db= log to database... remote:what if you want your logs to be put on another machine null logger does nothing. Handling the log output should be _completely_ separated from Zope. On the fly changes to log levels and separating ouput to different output channels would be good. Regards, Frank ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
Have you looked at EventLogManager? http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/Products/EventLogManager If I had it to do over again, I'd change lots, but it does do what you're asking for. what if I want to split the logs based on some condition I have to change code in Zope, and restart the server ... that's not the way something like this should be done. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
On 01 Mar 2002 16:27:18 +0100, Frank Tegtmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Completely separated means that it isn't Zope's job to care for rotating logs, filtering them and what else you could do to logs. There are lots of programs out there that are specialized in handling log data. We for example use a setup with the multilog program from Dan Bernsteins multilog package (see http://www.lightwerk.com/zope/logging) which separates the function from Zope. Or the humble syslog, which is good enough to keep me happy at the moment. Im suprised we dont have more requests from the NT users for using the NT Event log. Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
See PEP 282 [1]. If this PEP is accepted, work should probably follow its course. It would be nice to have a single logging mechanism for Python, and for Zope to use and/or extend it. Granted, if it is accepted, it won't be in Python until Python 2.3 which I believe is due in August. ..[1] http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0282.html On 2/28/02 3:34 PM, Romain Slootmaekers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo, questions wrt logging: -) What are the plans to improve the rather primitive logging facilities in zope ? I couldn't find anything in the plan for 2.6, nor on the 3.0 homepage. I think we need at least an extendibl framework with following types of components: - Loggers (fi, file logger, db loggers, remote logger, nulllogger,...) - Filters (fi on severity, on subsystem, ...) - LogBus (central accesspoint for the logging framework, where you can (dynamically) hook your loggers, filters etc... if time is an issue, we could just copy the design of fi Log4J which is a good logging framework for apache. -) If there are no such plans, can we hack something up ourselves and add/donate it to the product ? I hate writing stuff that gets replaced by something else afterwards input appreciated. Sloot. -- Jeffrey P Shell www.cuemedia.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] improved logging
Yo, questions wrt logging: -) What are the plans to improve the rather primitive logging facilities in zope ? I couldn't find anything in the plan for 2.6, nor on the 3.0 homepage. I think we need at least an extendibl framework with following types of components: - Loggers (fi, file logger, db loggers, remote logger, nulllogger,...) - Filters (fi on severity, on subsystem, ...) - LogBus (central accesspoint for the logging framework, where you can (dynamically) hook your loggers, filters etc... if time is an issue, we could just copy the design of fi Log4J which is a good logging framework for apache. -) If there are no such plans, can we hack something up ourselves and add/donate it to the product ? I hate writing stuff that gets replaced by something else afterwards input appreciated. Sloot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] improved logging
http://freshmeat.net/projects/log4py/ Romain Slootmaekers wrote: Yo, questions wrt logging: -) What are the plans to improve the rather primitive logging facilities in zope ? I couldn't find anything in the plan for 2.6, nor on the 3.0 homepage. I think we need at least an extendibl framework with following types of components: - Loggers (fi, file logger, db loggers, remote logger, nulllogger,...) - Filters (fi on severity, on subsystem, ...) - LogBus (central accesspoint for the logging framework, where you can (dynamically) hook your loggers, filters etc... if time is an issue, we could just copy the design of fi Log4J which is a good logging framework for apache. -) If there are no such plans, can we hack something up ourselves and add/donate it to the product ? I hate writing stuff that gets replaced by something else afterwards input appreciated. Sloot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
