Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-04 Thread Myroslav Opyr
Tres Seaver wrote:

On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:58, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
 

I don't know about 'blessing', but I'm using it on a project currently 
(Python 2.3 and Zope 2.6.2) without glitches.
Andrew

Toby Dickenson wrote:
   

Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ?
 

We have deployed Zope 2.6.2 with Python 2.2.3 in production for clients
already;  the garbage collection improvements in Python 2.2.3 were so
compelling that we couldn't reasonably roll them back to Python 2.1.3
after testing.
 

I've several times met indirect evidences that migration of application 
between Python 2.1 - Python 2.2 got strange pickle-related issues.

Not sure if it was Python itself or some 3rd party product like 
TextIndexNG but the issues arised.

However running something with Python 2.2 or 2.3 from scratch had shown 
no problems.

Regards,

m.
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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-04 Thread Andreas Jung


--On Samstag, 4. Oktober 2003 10:20 Uhr +0300 Myroslav Opyr 
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Not sure if it was Python itself or some 3rd party product like
TextIndexNG but the issues arised.
There is no such problem with TextIndexNG.

-aj

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Friday 03 October 2003 15:33, Chris McDonough wrote:
 Jim is keen to get an audit going quickly before a 2.7
 final release, and the audit would be performed against Python 2.3.2.

Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ?



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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I don't know about 'blessing', but I'm using it on a project currently 
(Python 2.3 and Zope 2.6.2) without glitches.
Andrew

Toby Dickenson wrote:

On Friday 03 October 2003 15:33, Chris McDonough wrote:
 

Jim is keen to get an audit going quickly before a 2.7
final release, and the audit would be performed against Python 2.3.2.
   

Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ?



 



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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 03:48:06PM +0100, Toby Dickenson wrote:
 On Friday 03 October 2003 15:33, Chris McDonough wrote:
  Jim is keen to get an audit going quickly before a 2.7
  final release, and the audit would be performed against Python 2.3.2.
 
 Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ?

yes, but not much time to help out :-(

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Tres Seaver
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:58, Andrew Sawyers wrote:

 I don't know about 'blessing', but I'm using it on a project currently 
 (Python 2.3 and Zope 2.6.2) without glitches.
 Andrew
 
 Toby Dickenson wrote:

 Does anyone else have an interest in blessing Zope 2.6.x with Python 2.2/2.3 ?

We have deployed Zope 2.6.2 with Python 2.2.3 in production for clients
already;  the garbage collection improvements in Python 2.2.3 were so
compelling that we couldn't reasonably roll them back to Python 2.1.3
after testing.

Tres.
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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:33:01AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
 Well, to be clear, there hasn't been any formal security audit of the
 combination of Python 2.2 with Zope 2.7.  So we'd lose nothing by moving
 directly to 2.3.  Jim is keen to get an audit going quickly before a 2.7
 final release, and the audit would be performed against Python 2.3.2.

then by all means, 2.3.2.  These audits seem to be hard to get going
on a regular basis (we've been on python 2.1.3 for how long now?)
so I see no point in blessing a version of python that's already not
latest-and-greatest.

The only counterargument i can think of is that 2.3 may not be
bundled with many linux distros yet. I've always compiled my own
python for use with zope, so I don't know how big a deal that is.

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Christian Theune
Am Fr, 2003-10-03 um 17.16 schrieb Paul Winkler:

 The only counterargument i can think of is that 2.3 may not be
 bundled with many linux distros yet. I've always compiled my own
 python for use with zope, so I don't know how big a deal that is.

Debian stable requires it's own backports (self compiled, that is) for
python 2.2 and 2.3 anyway, so for those running Debian/stable on their
servers it won't be much of a difference.

Cheers,
Christian

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.

Paul Winkler writes:
  then by all means, 2.3.2.  These audits seem to be hard to get going
  on a regular basis (we've been on python 2.1.3 for how long now?)
  so I see no point in blessing a version of python that's already not
  latest-and-greatest.

It's not just that Python 2.2.3 is no longer the latest and greatest,
but that it's no longer on a maintenance track; that's what 2.3.x is.

  The only counterargument i can think of is that 2.3 may not be
  bundled with many linux distros yet. I've always compiled my own
  python for use with zope, so I don't know how big a deal that is.

If someone can set up Zope, they can install Python in their sleep.  I
don't think this is an issue at all.


  -Fred

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