Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-10-01 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:27:13 -0400, Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: http://dev.zope.org/CVS/Contributor.pdf This says 'you must indicate your agreement to the term below'; shouldn't it be 'terms'? Uhh...well...yes! I'll make the change. I'm waiting for

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-10-01 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:13:57 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, let's begin what I'm sure will be a lively and illuminating discussion. :^) A question about Joint Ownership The ZPL currently includes a no-liability clause. If one half-owner were to

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Paul Everitt writes: We'll probably work up some boilerplate such as, I'm going to commit your patch to Zope. It's going to be available under the ZPL and the joint ownership model of the Zope Contributor Agreement. Please respond agreeing that you understand the ZPL, the joint

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Paul Everitt wrote: At last, the announcement I've been dying to make. After much deliberation -- meaning, I've procrastinated for too long :^) -- I'm pleased to announce our approach for opening the CVS repository to community checkins. Cool, at last!

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Everitt
Martijn Faassen wrote: http://dev.zope.org/CVS/Contributor.pdf This says 'you must indicate your agreement to the term below'; shouldn't it be 'terms'? Uhh...well...yes! I'll make the change. I'm waiting for news back from the lawyer about provisions for handling patches. I'll then

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Everitt wrote: Does anyone think this is close enough that I can go ahead and get the bootstrap group (under ten, selected by us) going? I'd like to avoid making them sign and mail an agreement, then do it again if there's substantive changes. Yup :-) Chris

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Zopista
Does anyone think this is close enough that I can go ahead and get the bootstrap group (under ten, selected by us) going? I'd like to avoid making them sign and mail an agreement, then do it again if there's substantive changes. Go for it.

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Everitt
OK, a response. Sorry for the delay. First, I'll change the part of the introduction that says: Essentially, a committer signs an agreement stating that all code that the committer submits has been created by her. ...to say: Essentially, a committer signs an agreement stating that

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Paul Everitt wrote: Repugnancy aside :^) your second comment is on the mark. It isn't so much that you need to assign and lose ownership. Rather, the committer needs to ensure that they aren't violating your rights. We'll probably work up some boilerplate such as, I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 09:19, Paul Everitt wrote: We'll probably work up some boilerplate such as, I'm going to commit your patch to Zope. It's going to be available under the ZPL and the joint ownership model of the Zope Contributor Agreement. Please respond agreeing that you

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-25 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 05:27, Paul Everitt wrote: Does anyone think this is close enough that I can go ahead and get the bootstrap group (under ten, selected by us) going? I'd like to avoid making them sign and mail an agreement, then do it again if there's substantive changes. Full

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-23 Thread Joachim Werner
I imagine that the group will decide rules on peer reviewing. For comparison, the Mozilla group has very elaborate rules for checkins, while Python has pretty much an innocent until proven guilty culture. (That is, you check something in, and if somebody complains, it gets removed.) I

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-21 Thread Joachim Werner
Hi Paul! Hi list! In the last couple of weeks I have really looked forward for the CVS to be finally opened. Not that I would be the first to be accepted as a contributor (my Python is still lousy, as Stephan Richter could tell you ...), but I read things from ZC like We are too busy to get

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-21 Thread Paul Everitt
This is a good point, and one that we need to settle on pretty quickly. The language is an artifact from the Mozilla contributor form, which served as the starting point for this. We intended to follow it, but with the advent of the joint ownership idea (which came late in the process),

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-21 Thread Dieter Maurer
R. David Murray writes: ... So, the many small contributions that make a bazaar software project tend rapidly toward high quality, which is one of the things I got the impression you are trying to achieve by opening up the CVS repository, may not materialize under this Agreement. We'll

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-21 Thread Paul Everitt
I'll reply in more depth later (on the way out for my b-day dinner), but in short: I think the issue of overhead on patches is something for us to consider. We won't do something that breaks the integrity of the code base, but there might be ample discussion directions. Thanks! --Paul

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-21 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
On Fri, 2001-09-21 at 15:51, Paul Everitt wrote: I'll reply in more depth later (on the way out for my b-day dinner) Hey, happy birthday, Paul! Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Community checkins for CVS

2001-09-20 Thread Morten W. Petersen
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Paul Everitt wrote: So, let's begin what I'm sure will be a lively and illuminating discussion. :^) First man out? :-) Will a ZPL-ish license [1] be accepted (declared, ref. paragraph 4 of the Zope Contributor Agreement) by the Zope Corporation? [1]