Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: XHTML Templates proposal
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:55:53PM -0700, Paul Everitt wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > IMHO, view, page, and stylesheet don't make the grade due to > > conflicts/confusion with unrelated technologies (e.g. MVC, "server pages", > > CSS, etc.). > > On the other hand, reading the "What is styles?" material at: > > http://www.w3.org/Style/ > > ...makes me think that the goals of the people using these things (site > designers) are the same as the goals of the audience described for > stylesheets. That is, these are things that control the presentation. > > --Paul This might be a great idea, but..., could we have a pledge that DTML not be killed? It might prove to be a real inconvenience (understatement) to those of us who are abusing Zope to do general web application work (and don't really care about site design, in the usual sense of the word)! DTML might be an ugly, warty, hard to believe it sprang from Python little beasty, but it is a familiar little beasty. (And thanks for giving it to us, by the way!) > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: XHTML Templates proposal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IMHO, view, page, and stylesheet don't make the grade due to > conflicts/confusion with unrelated technologies (e.g. MVC, "server pages", > CSS, etc.). On the other hand, reading the "What is styles?" material at: http://www.w3.org/Style/ ...makes me think that the goals of the people using these things (site designers) are the same as the goals of the audience described for stylesheets. That is, these are things that control the presentation. --Paul ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: XHTML Templates proposal
At 02:02 PM 9/15/00 +0100, Toby Dickenson wrote: >On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:28:40 -0400, Paul Everitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>Note On Jargon >> >> The choice of term for the presentation object has been contentious. >> Right now the list of choices include: template, view, page, or >> stylesheet. This proposal doesn't make the decision on the jargon. >> Rather, the tier is usually refered to as the presentation. When a >> choice has to be made, such as the Architecture section, Template is >> used as the temporary choice. > >so-obvious-you-might-not-have-thought-of-it.. 'Presenter' > Other candidates might include: Format Layout Formatter IMHO, view, page, and stylesheet don't make the grade due to conflicts/confusion with unrelated technologies (e.g. MVC, "server pages", CSS, etc.). ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: XHTML Templates proposal
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:28:40 -0400, Paul Everitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Note On Jargon > > The choice of term for the presentation object has been contentious. > Right now the list of choices include: template, view, page, or > stylesheet. This proposal doesn't make the decision on the jargon. > Rather, the tier is usually refered to as the presentation. When a > choice has to be made, such as the Architecture section, Template is > used as the temporary choice. so-obvious-you-might-not-have-thought-of-it.. 'Presenter' Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
