Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote:

--On Freitag, 17. September 2004 11:58 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda 
Senra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen
due to the Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ... section in
http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt

These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features.
I consider improvements of existing functionality to be a new feature.
Third-dot releases should be only for bug fixes.
Sometimes we compromise on this.
I realize that the lack of progress on 2.8 creates pent up demand
for new features in earlier releases.  I'm not sure what to do
about that.  I know I won't be able to spend time on 2.8 until
after the new year, at least.
Jim
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-20 Thread Andreas Jung

--On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 9:48 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features.
I consider improvements of existing functionality to be a new feature.
Third-dot releases should be only for bug fixes.
Then I call them new mini features which are reasonably manageable through
a reasonable release management (I hope we have one :-)).
Sometimes we compromise on this.
I realize that the lack of progress on 2.8 creates pent up demand
for new features in earlier releases.  I'm not sure what to do
about that.  I know I won't be able to spend time on 2.8 until
after the new year, at least.
I am not in the position to tell people what to do but an ongoing Z2 
development
is vital for Zope and its community. A standstill is like going a step 
back. This is especially true
as long  as Zope 3 has the infrastructure that we need to build systems we 
can build with Zope 2.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-17 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
Jim Fulton wrote:
Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote:
Hi,
is the  Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ?

Huh?  Zope 2.7 is feature frozen.  New features need to
go into 2.8.
Jim
Fair enough.
I do understand the rationale why new features should follow major releases.
However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen
due to the Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ... section in
http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt
There is more historical evidence of added features in
minor releases. Perhaps borderline cases between bug fix and new feature
or just simply exceptions to the rule wink.
cheers,
Rod Senra
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-17 Thread Andreas Jung

--On Freitag, 17. September 2004 11:58 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen
due to the Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ... section in
http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt
These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features.
A new feature would added SOAP support or something similar but adding
a knob here and there and adjusting code where it is necessary.
-aj
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-16 Thread Andreas Jung

--On Donnerstag, 16. September 2004 11:16 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda 
Senra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
is the  Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Yes.
Nevertheless,  that patch was cooked for 2.8. I volunteer to clean it,
port it back and
test it under 2.7.4b, and re-submit to ZC if approved.
Consider to clean it up for 2.7.5. New features for 2.7.4 final are 
currently
not accepted.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote:
Hi,
is the  Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Huh?  Zope 2.7 is feature frozen.  New features need to
go into 2.8.
Jim
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Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?

2004-12-16 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:16:22AM -0300, Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is the  Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ?
 
 If not, I believe that the patch :
http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1584
It adds the directive 'extensions' to zope.conf.
If overriden, then the specified directory will be used for 
 ExternalMethods,
instead of the default $INSTANCE/Extensions.

Nice idea. How hard would it be to make it support 
multiple Extensions directories, just like we can have
multiple Products directories?
 
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