Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:37:55PM +0900, Joseph Wayne Norton wrote:
 p.s. It is my own personal taste but I don't really care for the tkgui
 interface for running the zope test suite.  Any possibilites of making
 the test suite run in a fashion similar to the python installation
 test suite?

You can just use the standard unittest module to run a text version of the
tests. On my machine, unittest.py is executable, and I just type:

  PYTHONPATH=./lib/python /usr/lib/python2.2/unittest.py Zope.Testing.allZopeTests

This is all one line, in bash. In csh, you'll have to set the PYTHONPATH env
var by hand beforehand, I believe.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Shane Hathaway

Andy Dawkins wrote:

Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2.

 
 Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2?
 
 I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module.
 
 Would a different version do, Or have you solved any problems with the
 pyexpat module in 2.2.b2?


Make sure you have expat, including the headers, installed when 
compiling Python (independently of Python).  On Mandrake 8.1 I installed 
  the RPMs libexpat1_95-1.95.2-1mdk, libexpat1_95-devel-1.95.2-1mdk, and 
expat-1.95.2-1mdk.

Shane


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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Andy Dawkins

YAY

*There was much rejoicing*

Thanks Shane, once again you have solved my problems.

-Andy

Shane Hathaway wrote:
 
 Andy Dawkins wrote:
 
 Zope 3X requires Python 2.2b2.
 
 
  Are you sure you mean Python2.2b2?
 
  I tried this but seem to get problems with the pyexpat module.
 
  Would a different version do, Or have you solved any problems with the
  pyexpat module in 2.2.b2?
 
 Make sure you have expat, including the headers, installed when
 compiling Python (independently of Python).  On Mandrake 8.1 I installed
   the RPMs libexpat1_95-1.95.2-1mdk, libexpat1_95-devel-1.95.2-1mdk, and
 expat-1.95.2-1mdk.
 
 Shane

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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Jeffrey P Shell

On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 06:37  AM, Joseph Wayne Norton wrote:

[SNIP[
 p.s. It is my own personal taste but I don't really care for the tkgui
 interface for running the zope test suite.  Any possibilites of making
 the test suite run in a fashion similar to the python installation
 test suite?


You can run unittest.py directly.  Instead of doing python2.2 
utilities/unittestgui.py ..., do python2.2 
/usr/local/lib/python2.2/unittest.py ... (based on wherever your 
python2.2 libraries are).

It works just the same.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Chris Withers

Shane Hathaway wrote:
 
 BTW another correction: it turns out we will be implementing some DTML
 in Zope 3X.

acckkk... why?

Chris

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RE: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Brian Lloyd

  BTW another correction: it turns out we will be implementing some DTML
  in Zope 3X.
 
 acckkk... why?

Because it still has legitimate uses (try formatting a MIME-multipart 
email message with ZPT...).

The beauty of Z3, though, is that you should have much more flexibility 
in what you choose to use. Don't like DTML? Don't use it. Really hate 
it and feel motivated? Implement an alternative templating framework 
that works better for particular needs. I think the Z3 architecture will 
make it much easier to use the right tool for the job.


Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com

 

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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Matt Behrens

Shane Hathaway wrote:

 Q: Will Zope 3X be compatible with Zope 2 products?
 A: No.


What's up with the ZopeLegacy stuff in the co I'm getting now?  Yes I am 
grabbing the branch...


 To check out Zope 3X from CVS:
 
 cvs -d :pserver:cvs.zope.org:/cvs-repository co -r Zope-3x-branch Zope3


:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository

And don't forget cvs login.

 Again, this is all quite exciting and I hope you can join the action.


I hope to.  Who's in charge of packaging and installation?  I see an opportunity to do 
it right this time, I hope I'm not too late to the party.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Everitt

Matt Behrens wrote:

 Shane Hathaway wrote:
 Again, this is all quite exciting and I hope you can join the action.
 
 I hope to.  Who's in charge of packaging and installation?  I see an 
 opportunity to do it right this time, I hope I'm not too late to the party.


I think this is an excellent area to bring in community members and let 
them have some ownership.  There are a number of interesting initiatives 
out there -- in no particular order, Andy McKay, Andrew Milton, Adrian 
Hungate, Kapil Thangavelu, and Amos Latteier.

We're interested in bringing more people into the core and giving them 
room to make decisions and have influence.  It's an important lesson 
from the discussions over the last few days -- we don't scale that well 
and we need more leadership in the core.

Thus, I'm looking for a couple of people willing to shepherd areas such 
as packaging and make a serious commitment for a fair duration.

--Paul

 



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Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letters and Zope 3

2001-12-03 Thread Lennart Regebro

From: Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - The new component architecture is having a very positive impact.  Deep
 multiple inheritance is a thing of the past.

Oh, DARN! I've been holding Zope up as an example that multiple inheritence
DOES work to the people who religiously claim otherwise! :-)




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