Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:44, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:18, Stephan Richter wrote: > > Because in general I don't like version numbers in the path. I also think > > that "zope" is the only name that is 100% right on. Everything else is a > > compromise I would try to avoid. We will be sorry about it later, when > > many more people run Zope 3 only applications. > > I tend to agree, but if compromise is the only solution, then I'd tend > to favor keeping Zope3 'clean'. We're planning on Zope3 being around > much longer than Zope2, right? :) Yes, this is really what I meant. I want to keep Zope 3 clean too. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:36, Jim Fulton wrote: > > Again, I think educating is easier than anything else. People understand > > that this is due to a merge of codebases and is for a transition period > > only. And, the TTW scripter will not care. > > But this is a really important transition. It's a transition > that will last at least a year or two, maybe longer, and will be an > extremely sensitive period. I want things to go really well during > this transition. Me too! And I think some good transition documents can help explaining this. I will commit to writing them with the help of someone who knows Zope 2 well. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope and zope
Fred Drake wrote: Jim Fulton noted: > Of course, having two packages with names differing only in case is a > bit ugly. > > Do we want to consider renaming one or both of these packages > to avoid the conflict? A bit ugly, but I can live with it. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 22:17, Tres Seaver wrote: > -1 to renaming 'Zope'; the amount of third-party code which we would > break is incalculable. -0 to renaming 'zope' to 'z3', or something; at > least third party code for Zope3 was built in the test-driven culture, > and has at least some chance of migrating cleanly with confidence. On Tuesday 13 April 2004 10:44 pm, Stephan Richter wrote: > You wanna rename 'zope' to 'z3' for the purpose of merging the two? I > really hope that will not be the case. Or is this for Zope 2 only? > > I would hate to have imports like "z3.app.foo" or even "z3.i18n". I am > definitely -1 on this option, if it also applies to standalone Zope 3. Tres has a good objection, *if* we actually expect 3rd-party Zope 2 code to work in Zope 3. (I don't know if we have this requirement or not; I've no personal interest in doing so.) If we don't expect 3rd-party Zope 2 code to work in Zope 3, then the second entry on sys.path seems good enough; having a collection of code identified by two different names is unworkable. (Think absolute imports here.) Any requirement that states 3rd-party Zope 2 code work in Zope 3 will have to be worked out; that's the key here. -Fred I have not done anything with z3 yet, tough we intend to start working with it soon. We have a number of products that are mostly plain python within a thin zope-shell. Since we probably would like to use them in z3 and must maintain them in z2 I would like to see a way to mix the two. Robert ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
