Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and zope

2004-04-18 Thread Michael Bernstein
Jim Fulton wrote:

Jim Fulton wrote:

The first question is:

Is it a problem to have two packages with names differing only in case?
+1

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 09:00, Jim Fulton wrote:

 The first question is:
 
 Is it a problem to have two packages with names differing only in case?
 
snip
 
 Perhaps we can get more input on whether there's a problem.

 A response with a positive sign (e.g. +1, +0, +2, ...) indicates
 agreement that this is a probelm. :)

+1 

its probably a problem imo for mac users who are on a case insensitive
fs. 

none of the alternative seem all that appealing though.. the comment
about most z3 imports being prefixed with zope, suggests that any
backwards porting with a goal of forward compatibility will require
changing the existing z2 Zope package to something else, although
sticking version numbers on package names doesn't hold much appeal for
me. perhaps renaming z2 Zope-Core

-kapil


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Jim Fulton
Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 09:00, Jim Fulton wrote:


The first question is:

Is it a problem to have two packages with names differing only in case?

snip

Perhaps we can get more input on whether there's a problem.

A response with a positive sign (e.g. +1, +0, +2, ...) indicates
agreement that this is a probelm. :)


+1 

its probably a problem imo for mac users who are on a case insensitive
fs. 

none of the alternative seem all that appealing though..
Thanks  for the input.

I'd prefer to defer discussion on alternatives until we determine whether
there is a problem we want to fix.
Jim

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Fred Drake
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 09:54 am, Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
  its probably a problem imo for mac users who are on a case insensitive
  fs.

Is this still an issue for Mac OS X, or is your concern for classic Mac OS?  I 
don't know if we support that (simply because I've never heard anyone mention 
it).

  none of the alternative seem all that appealing though.. the comment

No, they don't.  The current Zope 3 naming for modules and packages mostly 
follows the current BDFL recommendations, which is nice, and is friendly to 
to those of use alergic to upper case letters.  It also works well for 
case-senseless filesystems.

  about most z3 imports being prefixed with zope, suggests that any
  backwards porting with a goal of forward compatibility will require
  changing the existing z2 Zope package to something else, although
  sticking version numbers on package names doesn't hold much appeal for
  me. perhaps renaming z2 Zope-Core

The Zope 2 Zope package is actually quite small.  Perhaps renaming it is the 
best approach.  In spite of Tres's objection, I don't see how there could be 
all that much code that references it.  Perhaps it's referenced by some 
persistent objects?  There's an uncertain comment in Zope.ClassFactory, and 
Zope.App.ClassFactory might be referenced, but otherwise the Zope package 
contains startup code.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and zope

2004-04-14 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Jim Fulton wrote:

The first question is:

Is it a problem to have two packages with names differing only in case?

+1

A response with a positive sign (e.g. +1, +0, +2, ...) indicates
agreement that this is a probelm. :)
Jim

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