Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-30 Thread Tres Seaver
Chris Withers wrote: > > Tres Seaver wrote: > > > who's the CTO? > > > > Jim is. > > Okay, I get the joke now :-) > > > * "persistent" references are effectively required to be immortal: > > it is _mandated_ that one be able to stringify the IOR, copy it > >to a piece of paper, put the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: > > who's the CTO? > > Jim is. Okay, I get the joke now :-) > * "persistent" references are effectively required to be immortal: > it is _mandated_ that one be able to stringify the IOR, copy it >to a piece of paper, put the paper in a bottle, and cast it on >the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Evan Simpson wrote: > > There are generally two ways (at least) to think about "object > > identifiers". You can think of them as unique labels for > > specific objects, without regard for location ("Jim Fulton") > > Me too... > > > or as addresses or slot

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > who's the CTO? Jim Fulton, Chief Technology Officer. > > use paths instead of object monikers. > > Why not do both? > > Have an POID (CORBA style) to actually identify an object and then use > paths of POIDS to identify stuff

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Michel Pelletier wrote: > At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility > of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a > sequence of nodes from root to the target, this way, you could ask the > catalog for all objects below a certain point that matc

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Evan Simpson wrote: > > > In the case of Catalogs, much of the time we're probably not interested in > cataloging "whatever lives at this path address"; At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a s

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Evan Simpson wrote: > There are generally two ways (at least) to think about "object identifiers". > You can think of them as unique labels for specific objects, without regard > for location ("Jim Fulton") Me too... > or as addresses or slots in which objects can be > found ("the CTO"). who'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree the path from root to an object, with no aquisition, is unique, > but only per instance of zope... > I was thinking along the lines of a CORBA POID which, AFAIK, uniquely > identifies an object on a global scale. Could