Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think once we tried our solutions out a little bit more, we can talk to the distutil sig group. Why not engage with them at this stage? There are plenty of bright people there I'd bet, and the more people thinking about this the better, right? From my perspective, it would be great if whatever turns out to be the right solution gets built in at the python library level, not the zope level. How are other communities solving this problems? I bet you they don't have them. I'd be surprised if twisted, paste and the like haven't bumped into this problem ;-) What's the standard way of solving this problem in the python world? I don't think there is one. Then surely disutils-sig is the place to come up with one? (thinking of Martijn's recent comments about drastically improv[ing] both the quality and quantity of our communication with the rest of the world) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something, that seems... sub-optimal. So I have to do easy_install package x, edit a config file, then easy_install package y, rinse and repeat?! A call with different options is sufficient That still seems a bit ropey... Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. How are other communities solving this problems? What's the standard way of solving this problem in the python world? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development
On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think once we tried our solutions out a little bit more, we can talk to the distutil sig group. How are other communities solving this problems? I bet you they don't have them. What's the standard way of solving this problem in the python world? I don't think there is one. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development
Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something, that seems... sub-optimal. So I have to do easy_install package x, edit a config file, then easy_install package y, rinse and repeat?! A call with different options is sufficient -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
