Hey,
On 10/20/07, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Zope 2 had (for products) all three things together.
It was felt that this was a too tight coupling. Therefore, for Zope 3
the paradigma explicit is better than implicit (a paradigma, that I
personally dislike and find wrong)
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2007-10-20 03:15 +0200:
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I'd say it is a general concern of a framework to try to avoid how often
you need to repeat yourself. Right now you to use a Zope 3 package you
need to do the following things:
* list the egg in your setup.py dependencies
* load the ZCML
On Friday 19 October 2007 21:17, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
policies may not be appropriate for my application.
+1. Happens to me all the time.
Since this appears to be a rare case that is the exception,
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Fred Drake wrote:
On 10/17/07, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
other, but they still need to load the zcml from those dependencies
somehow. As a temporary solution to play with the
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
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I'm new to eggs, but maybe both sides could be satisfied with an
approach like extra_requires?
Extras are evil. See other posts of mine for explanations of why.
You could list oi.plum [zope.zcml] when
you require oi.plum *and* its ZCML
On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Tres Seaver wrote:
I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
policies may not be appropriate for my application. I think that the
library vs. pluggable application distinction is valid here:
maybe
you want to define an entry point in
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The main win, IMHO, is to avoid the requirement for people to install
slugs for third party products. Slugs suck - they are confusing to
explain and people forget them all the time. Buildout makes it a bit
easier, but it's still not a
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right - but you're building an application, and you're pretty
experienced with Zope. A lot of Plone users just want to install a
plug-in (a product), basically. Before, they just dropped it into a
It sounds like your concerns center around
