Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-09-01 Thread Chris Withers
Marius Gedminas wrote: So either let's make zope.app.testing not depend on the whole world, +1 or let's extract the core of zope.app.testing +10 and put it somewhere else (zope.testing?). -1 cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting -

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is!

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: This is a controversial change; can we avoid making changes like this until a policy is agreed upon? The controversy surrounding this has been discussed on zope-dev several times; I don't want to rehash it *right now*, since we all have things we need to get done. I

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is! If you can advise a different way to avoid pulling in

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what you test, test dependencies can't be eliminated. I understand, but this

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:59:24PM +0200, Malthe Borch wrote: Fred Drake wrote: There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what you

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is!