Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Vincent Fretin
If I followed the commits correctly, the mkzeoinst was extracted from
ZODB3 package and is now in the zope.mkzeoinstance, right?

Vincent


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
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 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Log message for revision 111959:
   Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing 
 the mkzeoinst script

 Why does the ZTK need that script?

 Changed:
   U   zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg

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 Modified: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg
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 --- zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 22:46:51 UTC (rev 111958)
 +++ zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 23:02:34 UTC (rev 111959)
 @@ -189,7 +189,8 @@
  zc.recipe.testrunner = 1.2.0
  zc.resourcelibrary = 1.3.1
  zdaemon = 2.0.4
 -ZODB3 = 3.9.4
 +ZODB3 = 3.9.5
 +zope.mkzeoinstance = 3.9.4

  # Not a dependency:


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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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Vincent Fretin wrote:
 If I followed the commits correctly, the mkzeoinst was extracted from
 ZODB3 package and is now in the zope.mkzeoinstance, right?

Yes.  I was questioning why a ZTK user, rather than somebody using an
appserver like Zope2, etc., would need a bin/mkzeoinst script (the only
thing provided by the egg, which I extracted from ZODB at Jim's request).

ZODB is only included in the ZTK as a dependency, because some packages
import it:  nothing else in the ZTK configures server instances.

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Log message for revision 111959:
   Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing 
 the mkzeoinst script
 Why does the ZTK need that script?
 
 Changed:
   U   zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg

 -=-
 Modified: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg
 ===
 --- zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 22:46:51 UTC (rev 111958)
 +++ zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 23:02:34 UTC (rev 111959)
 @@ -189,7 +189,8 @@
  zc.recipe.testrunner = 1.2.0
  zc.resourcelibrary = 1.3.1
  zdaemon = 2.0.4
 -ZODB3 = 3.9.4
 +ZODB3 = 3.9.5
 +zope.mkzeoinstance = 3.9.4


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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote:
 Vincent Fretin wrote:
 If I followed the commits correctly, the mkzeoinst was extracted from
 ZODB3 package and is now in the zope.mkzeoinstance, right?
 
 Yes.  I was questioning why a ZTK user, rather than somebody using an
 appserver like Zope2, etc., would need a bin/mkzeoinst script (the only
 thing provided by the egg, which I extracted from ZODB at Jim's request).
 
 ZODB is only included in the ZTK as a dependency, because some packages
 import it:  nothing else in the ZTK configures server instances.

Nothing in zopeapp uses it either?

If nothing depends on it, it's less important to track it carefully. Of 
course if app servers start using it they should be tracking it, and if 
common infrastructure emerges that builds on it, it might make sense to 
push it into something more common.

Regards,

Martijn


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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
 Tres Seaver wrote:
 ZODB is only included in the ZTK as a dependency, because some packages
 import it:  nothing else in the ZTK configures server instances.

 Nothing in zopeapp uses it either?

Not that I know off.

 If nothing depends on it, it's less important to track it carefully. Of
 course if app servers start using it they should be tracking it, and if
 common infrastructure emerges that builds on it, it might make sense to
 push it into something more common.

I don't particular care if it is in there. Zope2 has a script which is
dependent on it and the buildout recipes for setting up ZEO servers
tend to depend on it. So I assumed this is a case of something many of
the ZTK consumers use.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Tres Seaver wrote:
 Vincent Fretin wrote:
 If I followed the commits correctly, the mkzeoinst was extracted from
 ZODB3 package and is now in the zope.mkzeoinstance, right?
 Yes.  I was questioning why a ZTK user, rather than somebody using an
 appserver like Zope2, etc., would need a bin/mkzeoinst script (the only
 thing provided by the egg, which I extracted from ZODB at Jim's request).

 ZODB is only included in the ZTK as a dependency, because some packages
 import it:  nothing else in the ZTK configures server instances.
 
 Nothing in zopeapp uses it either?

Nothing in zopeapp sets up server instances, AFAIK.   Lots of code in
zopeapp imports ZODB, but nobody depends on being able to set up a ZEO
instance.


 If nothing depends on it, it's less important to track it carefully. Of 
 course if app servers start using it they should be tracking it, and if 
 common infrastructure emerges that builds on it, it might make sense to 
 push it into something more common.

BlueBream or grokproject, which generate code to set up applications,
might want to pull it in (or emit the depenency into the generated
code).  Zope2 definitely needs it.


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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote:
 BlueBream or grokproject, which generate code to set up applications,
 might want to pull it in (or emit the depenency into the generated
 code).  Zope2 definitely needs it.

If it's sensible for all three projects to use it I think it makes sense 
for it to be in the ZTK. Even if not all three projects are using it yet. :)

Regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Tres Seaver wrote:
 BlueBream or grokproject, which generate code to set up applications,
 might want to pull it in (or emit the depenency into the generated
 code).  Zope2 definitely needs it.
 
 If it's sensible for all three projects to use it I think it makes sense 
 for it to be in the ZTK. Even if not all three projects are using it yet. :)

ZODB is not in the ZTK, even though all three projects use it.  Its
version info is included, as are the versiosn for its dependencies.  I
guess you are arguing that zope.mkzeoinstance falls under the same category?

+0 from me on that, if so.  -1 to managing the package as an explicit
part of the ZTK.


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Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-05 Thread Tres Seaver
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Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Log message for revision 111959:
   Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the 
 mkzeoinst script

Why does the ZTK need that script?

 Changed:
   U   zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg
 
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 Modified: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg
 ===
 --- zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 22:46:51 UTC (rev 111958)
 +++ zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg 2010-05-04 23:02:34 UTC (rev 111959)
 @@ -189,7 +189,8 @@
  zc.recipe.testrunner = 1.2.0
  zc.resourcelibrary = 1.3.1
  zdaemon = 2.0.4
 -ZODB3 = 3.9.4
 +ZODB3 = 3.9.5
 +zope.mkzeoinstance = 3.9.4
  
  # Not a dependency:


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