Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl?
On Saturday 01 December 2001 02:29, Magnus Heino wrote: > > 3. We could use another open source tool. Bugzilla springs to > > mind. Yes, it's not Zope, or even python, but it does > > work, certainly better than anything we, as a community, have > > right now or could build in the time it would take to > > install and set up. > > Well, I'm not too sure about that. Bugzilla is an undocumented, hacked, > run-at-one-place-but-dont-try-to-move-it-beast. imho. Just like > sourceforge... > > I gave it a try a while ago, but threw it away. http://roundup.sf.net/ ... is in heavy development, but is also being used right now. Richard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl?
Casey Duncan wrote: > I propose (as I just did on zope-web) that ZC do one more little thing for > us. Open the web infrastructure up to a few of us. I would be willing to > spend a few nights hashing out a "more active" fishbowl system if that's > what's important. Lets take that first step though. Sold. Get a group of four or five people that are willing to commit up to ten hours a week for the next month. Gather together on zope-web and talk about what you plan to do. When rough consensus is reached, we'll give you logins on the test server. When consensus is reached there, we'll give you logins on zope.org, because at that point, you'll have convinced yourself and others that you're in it for the long haul. It's easy to start. Subscribe to the zope-web mailing list: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ...and start discussing what needs to be done. --Paul ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl?
On Friday 30 November 2001 10:45 am, Chris Withers allegedly wrote: > Magnus Heino wrote: > > Well, I'm not too sure about that. Bugzilla is an undocumented, hacked, > > run-at-one-place-but-dont-try-to-move-it-beast. imho. Just like > > sourceforge... > > And the fishbowl isn't? ;-) > > > I gave it a try a while ago, but threw it away. > > I could say the same of the fishbowl. Mozilla's use of bugzilla, however, > still does what I need of it. The few bugs I care about send me regular > status updates, and one day Mozilla will be in a state where I want to use > it... > > Chris I think we are getting in the habit as a community of letting ZC do something for us and then saying "this sucks" (in not so many words). Honestly I feel like I can't bitch, this is free stuff already. But...I think what we should do is come up with some priorites. The Fishbowl is our tool for discussion of Zope directions as it were and for fleshing out of ideas. Obviously something is wrong with it or us or both, because quite frankly I find that is not as sucessful as it could be. However, as we are all students of human nature, we can all attest to our own inherent deficiencies, which try as we might are hard to reform. So, since we *can* change the fishbowl, lets focus on that. However, there is currently no way for me to help realistically, short of rolling my own separately. Since it seems that we all read e-mail, lets keep this thread alive and discuss here how to reform the fishbowl. Using the fishbowl to reform itself, well, let's just say that isn't idea with "success" written all over it. I propose (as I just did on zope-web) that ZC do one more little thing for us. Open the web infrastructure up to a few of us. I would be willing to spend a few nights hashing out a "more active" fishbowl system if that's what's important. Lets take that first step though. /---\ Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] \---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl?
Magnus Heino wrote: > > Well, I'm not too sure about that. Bugzilla is an undocumented, hacked, > run-at-one-place-but-dont-try-to-move-it-beast. imho. Just like > sourceforge... And the fishbowl isn't? ;-) > I gave it a try a while ago, but threw it away. I could say the same of the fishbowl. Mozilla's use of bugzilla, however, still does what I need of it. The few bugs I care about send me regular status updates, and one day Mozilla will be in a state where I want to use it... Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
