Re: [ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion
Simon Michael wrote: Thanks Martijn, all. We made some good progress. For clarity, I heard no arguments against me trying the below so right now I have this action and will report any results here asap. (11:01:29) sm: yes, some good progress (11:01:40) sm: increased clarity understanding of next steps anyway (11:02:35) sm: it sounds like I should try mirroring the wikis like you suggest, so I hope to start some of that and follow up soon (11:07:58) sm: mirroring some wikis alongside zopewiki.org, starting with zope 3 wiki (11:08:29) sm: and see how that goes.. if it's a success we could deprecate the old wikis (11:09:08) sm: and then later I imagine they would move to a zope foundation zope server Hey, I'm really happy you're looking into this, Simon! For increased understanding and communication (something that I think I've learned we didn't always have recently :), could you expand on what your plans are concerning steps surrounding the wiki? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion
Thanks Martijn, all. We made some good progress. For clarity, I heard no arguments against me trying the below so right now I have this action and will report any results here asap. (11:01:29) sm: yes, some good progress (11:01:40) sm: increased clarity understanding of next steps anyway (11:02:35) sm: it sounds like I should try mirroring the wikis like you suggest, so I hope to start some of that and follow up soon (11:07:58) sm: mirroring some wikis alongside zopewiki.org, starting with zope 3 wiki (11:08:29) sm: and see how that goes.. if it's a success we could deprecate the old wikis (11:09:08) sm: and then later I imagine they would move to a zope foundation zope server ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion
Hey, Okay, Fred accidentally sparked something there. Let's all calm down first. Thanks. :) This is what we're going to do: * zope.org is going to be evolved using the microsites approach. * we're also look into getting some simple stuff done on zope.org. While we will try touching zope.org's software as much as possible, we *will* have to evolve it forward somewhat even if only to move functionality *off* zope.org. * we are going to move parts of zope.org onto a new server that is not managed by ZC, removing ZC as a bottleneck. This *is* going to happen. I'm working on this. Concerning the management structure of all this, it's pretty simple: volunteers concerning zope.org answer to me, unless I delegate the job. That includes Jim, so if Jim and Sidnei are going to work on something at 4 am in the night or whatever, they should come to me first and tell me what they want to do. We got into a pattern of blaming and defensiveness, and all kinds of old discussions flare up. I understand why, but that's counterproductive. Let's forget about the old and focus on the new, people. We're all flawed, human people of brainpower and good will and we can do this. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
