Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:03 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 ...
 I suspect there might be releases lurking elsewhere.  I'll run the script
 I used to generate the dump for other parts of the database, just in case.
 
 There were a few releases under Documentation and quite a few under Members.
 
 I've put Documentation.tgz and Members.tgz in app2.zope.org:/home/zope

Thanks Jim. Those files are now stitched into old.zope.org as well.

I'm going to prepare an email to zope-...@zope.org now describing the 
conversion and asking people to check for any files they may depend on 
(buildouts, etc).

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the 
software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no 
Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders containing 
the view templates swreleasefile_view and viewMD5.

jens


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the 
 software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no 
 Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders 
 containing the view templates swreleasefile_view and viewMD5.

If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
folders, can you knit it into the static site?

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal links 
to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately and use 
Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files themselves, 
which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
directories with the actual tar balls.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

 I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
 directories with the actual tar balls.

 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you 
 cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

Can you give an example?

Maybe we need to clean up those links.

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like
 
 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.
 
 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you 
 cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.
 
 Can you give an example?

Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for 
the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe.


 Maybe we need to clean up those links.

Yes, that's another option.

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but 
 you cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

 Can you give an example?

 Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for 
 the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe.


 Maybe we need to clean up those links.

 Yes, that's another option.

+1 :)

I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the
release files in a directory structure rooted at Products.  I
recommend:

1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings
/swreleasefile_view
2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace
whatever is in
the static site with the contents of the tar ball.

If you don't have time to do this and want to give me access, I can do this.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.
 
 I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

Hi Jim,

I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It works, 
mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has propagated 
and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go away.

Thanks for the tarball!

jens


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume 
 you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

 Hi Jim,

 I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It 
 works, mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has 
 propagated and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go 
 away.

 Thanks for the tarball!

Thanks for setting up the new old site. :)

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-09 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes 
 to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old 
 Zope releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available 
 for the moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep 
 the scope small.

 Can we spider this into a static site?


 Hi Jim,

 I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a static 
 site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for anyone to log in 
 and access protected content, unless a sysadmin needs to fix something. If 
 it's static I could immediately move it off to one of the ZF-controlled 
 servers, too.

Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
put it.

As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
I'll decommission the current machines.

I'm working on deploying an app for management of user accounts for svn access.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-06 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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 httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
 all exisiting URLs.

What incantation should I use?

Why should I use this rather than wget?

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-08-21 Thread Andreas Jung
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httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
all exisiting URLs.

Andreas

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:
 
 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl
 j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:
 
 It looks like zope.org has moved.
 
 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org
 still comes to zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move
 or deprecate that content?
 Hi Mark,
 
 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you
 can see from looking at the site, we tried to keep content under
 /Products (e.g. old Zope releases) and under /Members (member
 content and software) available for the moment since very little
 of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope small.
 Can we spider this into a static site?
 
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a
 static site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for
 anyone to log in and access protected content, unless a sysadmin
 needs to fix something. If it's static I could immediately move it
 off to one of the ZF-controlled servers, too.
 
 jens
 
 
 
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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-08-18 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope 
 releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the 
 moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope 
 small.

Can we spider this into a static site?

Jim

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