Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Andreas Jung
Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can not
proceed with the releases.

Andreas

On 03.08.09 19:52, Jim Fulton wrote:
 We cleaned up some old files and the space problem is addressed, at
 least for a few months. We'll look into getting some newer hardware
 for the storage server.

 We also restarted the app servers, although the app still seems to be
 quite slow.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote:
   
 Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 
 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
   
 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 
 On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
   
 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:

 
 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.
   
 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!
 
 
 Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.
   
 It works perfectly fine for me.
 
 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

 Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can  
 not
 proceed with the releases.

I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over  
30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full  
backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears  
the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily  
incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.

I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from  
the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how  
fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.

jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
I'm on #zope-web.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can not
 proceed with the releases.

 Andreas

 On 03.08.09 19:52, Jim Fulton wrote:
 We cleaned up some old files and the space problem is addressed, at
 least for a few months. We'll look into getting some newer hardware
 for the storage server.

 We also restarted the app servers, although the app still seems to be
 quite slow.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote:

 Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:

 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:


 On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:


 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!


 Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

 It works perfectly fine for me.

 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
Michael, is there any chance you can join us?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote:
 I'm on #zope-web.

 On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can not
 proceed with the releases.

 Andreas

 On 03.08.09 19:52, Jim Fulton wrote:
 We cleaned up some old files and the space problem is addressed, at
 least for a few months. We'll look into getting some newer hardware
 for the storage server.

 We also restarted the app servers, although the app still seems to be
 quite slow.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote:

 Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:

 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:


 On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:


 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!


 Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

 It works perfectly fine for me.

 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

 Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
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Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 
 On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:
 
 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can  
 not
 proceed with the releases.
 
 I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over  
 30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full  
 backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears  
 the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily  
 incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.
 
 I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from  
 the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how  
 fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.
 

Hi, this was caused by spamming 2 collector issues in member space, each
holding a transcript of about 1 MB and more.

I removed the issues, blocked the spamming user account and finally
changed default roles for everything collector related to 'Manager'.

Regards
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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks!

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Michael Haubenwallnermich...@d2m.at wrote:
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 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can
 not
 proceed with the releases.

 I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over
 30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full
 backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears
 the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily
 incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.

 I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from
 the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how
 fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.


 Hi, this was caused by spamming 2 collector issues in member space, each
 holding a transcript of about 1 MB and more.

 I removed the issues, blocked the spamming user account and finally
 changed default roles for everything collector related to 'Manager'.

 Regards
 Michael

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread David Lawson
That's pretty much along the lines I was thinking as well when I  
looked at it real quick this morning.  +1 from me, fwiw.

--Dave

On Aug 6, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

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 I just want to mention that we will run into space problems again
 tonight.

 The ZODB is 32 GB in size, and there's 2 GB space left on the drive.
 Any repozo run or pack at this point will fail. The only way out I can
 see involves the following:

  - delete all repozo backups

  - pack the database manually

  - delete Data.fs.old

 After that repozo will start with a fresh backup.

 Anyone have any better ideas?

 jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
Jens,

We're doing this. (Actually, we're going to copy the backups to
another disk first.)

We're also going to upgrade the hardware and switch to using ZRS.

Sorry, I should have acked sooner. Bad me. Bad bad me.

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote:
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 I just want to mention that we will run into space problems again tonight.

 The ZODB is 32 GB in size, and there's 2 GB space left on the drive. Any
 repozo run or pack at this point will fail. The only way out I can see
 involves the following:

  - delete all repozo backups

  - pack the database manually

  - delete Data.fs.old

 After that repozo will start with a fresh backup.

 Anyone have any better ideas?

 jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Aug 6, 2009, at 17:44 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 Jens,

 We're doing this. (Actually, we're going to copy the backups to
 another disk first.)

 We're also going to upgrade the hardware and switch to using ZRS.

 Sorry, I should have acked sooner. Bad me. Bad bad me.

No worries, just means less on my plate ;-)

jens

P.S.: A bigger disk would really be handy as well.



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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
I just looked and the transaction rates have fallen from about
200-300MB/hr to about 200-300K/hr. :)

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Michael Haubenwallnermich...@d2m.at wrote:
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 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can
 not
 proceed with the releases.

 I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over
 30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full
 backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears
 the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily
 incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.

 I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from
 the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how
 fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.


 Hi, this was caused by spamming 2 collector issues in member space, each
 holding a transcript of about 1 MB and more.

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 Regards
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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Aug 3, 2009, at 18:01 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 We run out of disk space for the zope.org site.

Does this error still occur? I see 12 GB free on that drive, but  
there's two other people who logged in before me, maybe they deleted  
something.

jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Andreas Jung
On 03.08.09 19:12, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 18:01 , Andreas Jung wrote:

  We run out of disk space for the zope.org site.

 Does this error still occur? I see 12 GB free on that drive, but
 there's two other people who logged in before me, maybe they deleted
 something.

Tnx, I can work again.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread David Lawson
Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo  
backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we  
would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time  
the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the  
Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

--Dave
On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

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 On Aug 3, 2009, at 18:01 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 We run out of disk space for the zope.org site.

 Does this error still occur? I see 12 GB free on that drive, but
 there's two other people who logged in before me, maybe they deleted
 something.

 jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:

 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Andreas Jung
On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:

  Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
  backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
  would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
  the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
  Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!

Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:

 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the  
 repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!

 Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

It works perfectly fine for me.

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Jim Fulton
Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

Jim

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:

  On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 
  On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:
 
  Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
  backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
  would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
  the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
  Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.
 
  Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!

  Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

 It works perfectly fine for me.
 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

 Andreas

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