Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Ah, I thought we had no Apache, but if there's an Apache, then yes, that would be a good place to start sticking up some flat files. The first incaranation of the foundation site will be flat files so that'd be a good start. My only worry is that poor little box does a

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Yeah, it does - but serving up static files isn't going to make it strain anymore then it does A On 9/27/06 3:54 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Ah, I thought we had no Apache, but if there's an Apache, then yes, that would be a good place to start

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: the machine that goes by many names, including svn.zope.org, cvs.zope.org, and mail.zope.org. I think I'm right in saying that this poor box does have apache on it and so might not be such a bad place to

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/25/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is something Jim actually just proposed as well. OK, super. Didn't see that. Sorry, that's because he said it just to me. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I missed this so I'm very happy Jens cc-ed this onto this list. Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki +1 on the idea, it wouldn't even have to be in the same Zope instance, rewrite rules can do the

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Sep 2006, at 12:05, Martijn Faassen wrote: Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki +1 on the idea, it wouldn't even have to be in the same Zope instance,

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: [snip] I don't know what the schedule is for the foundation to start hosting this, but I'd argue for starting the systems setup from scratch and adding new settings then. We don't have a schedule yet. I agree that doing a systems setup with community-understood

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: This is all documented in subversion IIRC. Jim will know. We need to make sure there are people in the foundation (besides Jim and ZC) who know. I'll ask Jim. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Sep 2006, at 14:31, Andrew Sawyers wrote: If it is simply taking what's running and set it up on a new set of servers, it would be fairly trivial. There's 1 or 2 zeo client servers. There's a storage server. There's cvs/svn and mail

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Read what I wrote. :) A On 9/25/06 8:38 AM, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Sep 2006, at 14:31, Andrew Sawyers wrote: If it is simply taking what's running and set it up on a new set of servers, it would be fairly trivial.

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Sep 2006, at 15:39, Andrew Sawyers wrote: Read what I wrote. :) I read what you wrote and I do not think it is trivial. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/25/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read what you wrote and I do not think it is trivial. I agree. I'd guess that for somebody that knows the LDAP software better than me, it might take a day or two. That's not trivial. It's also not hard. I'd call it ehm, Not too hard. :-)

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
There's a lot more to it then LDAP. LDAP doesn't make it hard, it just makes it harder. The goal (or lack thereof) will make it hard or trivial. Regardless, I didn't say rebuilding everything from scratch and sorting out the 'mess'. I said if it's just resetting up on a different group of

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/25/06 10:04 AM, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot more to it then LDAP. LDAP doesn't make it hard For me it does. That's why I said somebody that knows it better than me. :-) Regardless, it's always

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it should be done, would be to improve the underlying hardware. The other reason would be so that the community can manage all aspects of it's setup. If it's still like it was, then parts of the architecture are not going to be

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it should be done, would be to improve the underlying hardware. The other reason would be so that the community can manage all aspects of it's setup. If it's still like it was, then parts of the architecture

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
We just need to resurface the svn location of the doc and update if necessary. A On 9/25/06 11:18 AM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: This is all documented in subversion IIRC. Jim will know. We need to make sure there are people in

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Sep 2006, at 12:05, Martijn Faassen wrote: Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki +1 on the idea, it

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: We just need to resurface the svn location of the doc and update if necessary. Working on getting it. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/25/06, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately all the pieces above Zope, like rewrite setups, are out of reach and only accessible by ZC. Right. So... A minimum change would be to move name servering to somewhere controlled by ZF? -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/25/06, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately all the pieces above Zope, like rewrite setups, are out of reach and only accessible by ZC. Right. So... A minimum change would be to move name servering to somewhere controlled by ZF? Yes, this is

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/25/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is something Jim actually just proposed as well. OK, super. Didn't see that. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: the machine that goes by many names, including svn.zope.org, cvs.zope.org, and mail.zope.org. I think I'm right in saying that this poor box does have apache on it and so might not be such a bad place to stick the foundation stuff if it is just flat files? cheers,

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: the machine that goes by many names, including svn.zope.org, cvs.zope.org, and mail.zope.org. I think I'm right in saying that this poor box does have apache on it and so might not be such a bad place to stick the

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23 Sep 2006, at 20:38, Simon Michael wrote: Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki and merge the links from http://www.zope.org/Wikis/FrontPage . A zwiki

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm +1 too, but think we can call it wiki.zope.org. On 9/23/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23 Sep 2006, at 20:38, Simon Michael wrote: Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org.