[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/tlotze/src/zope/interface/interface.py Simplifying some idioms, coding style.

2005-08-23 Thread Thomas Lotze
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:18:44 -0400, Benji York wrote: I didn't review your entire check in (and I realize that this is on a branch), but the non-use of setdefault there was probably intentional to keep from constructing empty dicts and lists when they may not be used. A simple timing test

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/tlotze/src/zope/interface/interface.py Simplifying some idioms, coding style.

2005-08-23 Thread Benji York
Thomas Lotze wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:18:44 -0400, Benji York wrote: I didn't review your entire check in (and I realize that this is on a branch), but the non-use of setdefault there was probably intentional to keep from constructing empty dicts and lists when they may not be used. A

[Zope3-dev] Re: Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/tlotze/src/zope/interface/interface.py Simplifying some idioms, coding style.

2005-08-23 Thread Thomas Lotze
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:36:22 -0400, Benji York wrote: ACK I assume this means acknowledged as opposed to an exclamation of surprised disgust. ACK -- Thomas Lotze ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub:

[Zope3-dev] Florent's O-R blog entry

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
I recently read Florent's object/relational blog entry at http:// blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/florent_guillaume/ 2005_08_11_object_relational . It's getting a bit old now, but I didn't see much discussion (or a way to make a comment) so I thought I'd bring it up here to invite shared

[Zope3-dev] RDFLib and Zope 3

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
Michel (and anyone else with experience with RDFLib on the list), I recently looked at RDFLib (http://rdflib.net/) and came away (after an hour or so) with a good first impression. My biggest disappointment was that, from the perspective of a Zope 3 developer, using it alongside other Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] Florent's O-R blog entry

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 23, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Gary Poster wrote: FWIW, my concluding sentence would have been better written as Meanwhile, deciding that a community project require an O/R back end over FileStorage or DirectoryStorage, as Florent argues, feels like a significant case of throwing the baby

Re: [Zope3-dev] Florent's O-R blog entry

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 23, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: Gary Poster wrote: In conclusion, the nebulous concept of enterprise applications on Zope does not have a clear cut decision for or against an O/R mapper such as Ape. The cost of O/R mappings is not inconsequential, and the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Florent's O-R blog entry

2005-08-23 Thread Shane Hathaway
Gary Poster wrote: On Aug 23, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Gary Poster wrote: FWIW, my concluding sentence would have been better written as Meanwhile, deciding that a community project require an O/R back end over FileStorage or DirectoryStorage, as Florent argues, feels like a significant case of

Re: [Zope3-dev] [i18n] help for 2 translations

2005-08-23 Thread Sebastien Douche
On 8/22/05, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Food For Thought Another way of writing this idiom might be 'Things We Ought to Think About' or 'Questions for Later'. - Zope Stub Server Controller Let's see--grep tells me that the string is in ./src/zope/app/

Re: [Zope3-dev] Florent's O-R blog entry

2005-08-23 Thread Janko Hauser
Am 23.08.2005 um 20:36 schrieb Shane Hathaway: Gary Poster wrote: On Aug 23, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Gary Poster wrote: Argh, communication. That still could be too-easily misinterpreted, and I didn't stare at it long enough before I sent it. One more try. Meanwhile, deciding that a

[Zope3-dev] Re: RDFLib and Zope 3

2005-08-23 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 12:49 -0400, Gary Poster wrote: Michel (and anyone else with experience with RDFLib on the list), I recently looked at RDFLib (http://rdflib.net/) and came away (after an hour or so) with a good first impression. Great. I've cc:ed Dan Krech, the lead rdflib developer

[Zope3-dev] Re: RDFLib and Zope 3

2005-08-23 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:26 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Note that RDBMS-based applicattions will *already* impose such a requirement, from the moment that you want to join results from the RDF query to those from any other tables: every non-toy RDBMS in existence has a preferred primary key

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RDFLib and Zope 3

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Poster
On Aug 23, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Michel Pelletier wrote On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:26 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: They are know, but they are an *infeasible* join key (not only are they strings, but as arbitrary-length strings with common prefixes, their sorting semantics are almost worst-case for

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RDFLib and Zope 3

2005-08-23 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 18:04 -0400, Gary Poster wrote: The relationship between ZODB content objects, their int id as provided by the pertinent intid utility, and a (theoretical) corresponding RDF URI is what I'm having a hard time not making hacky in my mind. I'll think about it some