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Thnk of cataloguing / indexing use cases: adapting the catalogued
object to a string value (or tuple, or whatever) using named adapters is
a very natural way to make indexing pluggable
too. :-)
I use View | Message Source to deal with that.
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belongs on zodb-dev.
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at all.
Are the shipped certs part of Twisted? In that case, we need to report
this as an upstream bug.
BTW, are there tests of the HTTPS and SFTP support?
No se. Remove the code and see what breaks ;).
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be a reasonable workaround: if your forgot the '-k', the
testrunner would just whine and halt.
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becuase '__all__' is primarily intended to support the
'import *' misfeature in Python; any change which encourages 'from
zope.schema import *' cannot be the Right Thing (TM).
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no templates defined TTW, Zope3's security machiner
still needs some support from RestrictedPython for handling
filesystem-based templates.
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the resolvability of dotted names), we force some
directives to have early effects.
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(maybe via subscription to a checkins list?)
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
How should I do things such that they can do that?
I'm just wondering whether you really need the disabling feature.
I've wanted it.
Okay :).
My major beef with the way we are *using* ZCML
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it fits the way other Python packages are numbered,
and how setuptools interprets the value.
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of ;)). I'll be more attentive in
the future. I'm prepared to do this mercilessly (also for older
bugfixes), the question is whether we shall adopt this policy now or not.
I'm already on record in favor. ;)
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Rocky Burt wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-09 at 11:28 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
I agree in principle. In practice, I'm not sure we have enough
maintainers to get a release out, let alone maintain two
for the patch, when reading it, which
makes it harder for me to just jump in and merge it.
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out to those who
are clients of the code.
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they don't like the name a method was given, and deprecate
it in favor of the better name. The ongoing cost of that deprecation
is then borne by everyone else.
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complex, *and* it requires that you run Twisted. ClockServer
is dirt simple, robuts, and runs inside ZServer. It doesn't try to be
anything more than a way to trigger periodic requests.
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module code in its '__init__.py'.
'lib/python' shoulc not carry around such forks, if we can help it;
better svn:externals today, eggs tomorrow!
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Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 17. August 2006 01:11:44 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The appropriate thing here would be to remove the code which depends on
the GPL, and then ask the foundation's permission before readding
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don't even ship the documents which label those
directives as 'dangeroous' (they are off in the 'test' subtree).
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for revisions and drafts (I've done that as well for systems
with fewer, but more complex, documents).
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Zope 3, as releases
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Zope 3, as releases is not affected by the security hole that
has plagued Zope 2, however, Michael Haubenwallner has pointed
out
, will get that overview in the
top of their checkout.
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fixing most bugs, because it makes it easier for you (or
someone else) to fix that bug and others in that module.
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 6/26/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- -1. The externals are just that, external to the Zope project.
Uhm. I have a hard time seeing Five and lib/python/zope as external to
Zope.
They are managed as separate
representation in *any* standard locale. The
dashes-with-leading-zeros should be the default (it is the stock ISO
date format).
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' in the real world.
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into the upcoming 3.3 release?
Pretty
pretty please with sugar on top?
+1. I'm not even sure why you're asking. ;)
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. Since we already have had a beta release, 3.3 should
be considered in feature-freeze.
You could easily construe the omission of the 'time' field type as a
bug; adding it is near zero-risk, as well.
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able to introspect the ZCML without actually executing it.
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it several times in tha past.
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for at least a release *before* we talk about deprecating
the old ones.
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O(1)-amortized, I think).
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-- the factory
instances here function in place of the synthesize classes.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
- Introducing new deprecation warnings in third-dot releases is
probably inappropriate:
When we have we done this?
2.9.1 just did it (see below).
- Deprecating an API without cleaning
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- Deprectaion of an older, stable alternative, *no matter how grotty,*
should go hand in hand with *lots* of confidence that the new favored
alternative really is superior, and by enough
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(footprint, performance) of those objects is probably
not something which most users are going to want, at least not without
carefully considering the implications.
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know about. :)
Done.
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some flavors of IE were fussy about 'id'
attributes which were not valid according the HTML DTD's; I therefore
quit giving form fields an 'id' attribute long ago, just because I
couldn't keep it straight.
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Jeff Shell wrote:
On 3/20/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So *don't use ZCML*; use Python: there is literally nothing which can
be done in ZCML which cannot be done in Python. I wish that folks who
don't like / need ZCML would quit
disagreement about
the value of the simplification.
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Jeff Shell wrote:
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Jeff Shell wrote:
By the way, isn't it pretty easy to provide straight up values anyways
for those quick drop-down situations?
snip Python example
You're missing the point
just fixed the other eggification packages I had checked out
accordingly, including adding setup.cfg to the svn:ignore list.
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the vocabularies in another data file, and
merely have the high-level directive source it:
zope:vocabulary
name=philosophers
file=philosophers.csv
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Paul Winkler wrote:
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zcml:ktupema_necro_halogo
eh?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=ktupema+necro+halogobtnG=Search
Your search - ktupema necro halogo - did not match any
that such developer-admins are the primary users of ZCML so far
is due to the small size of the Zope3 market to date.
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Nathan R. Yergler wrote:
During the Zope3 sprint following PyCon, Paul and I, with Jim's
guidance, began work on exploring how Zope can utilize eggs
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developer is a barrier to reuse; we won't win brownie
points for all our cool components if we make it hard to use a
comoponent without accepting either *all* or *none* of its configured
policy choices.
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for zope.app.component :
python test.py --package=zope.app.component
A full test runs without problems.
A trunk checkout fails for me with the same traceback when run with that
command line.
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packages tend to be dependencies for the others, as
well. The eventual plan is to have *all* the non-app Python packages
distributable as eggs, as well as moving out large chunks of stuff
currently under zope.app.
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interface to the one it was written for. In this case, ideally one
would update the software with a more generic interface; but allowing
the configuration file to override the metadata is a workaround.
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did not want to type the much more verbose equivalents which were
the original, cleaner spellings.
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It should be possible to tweak the template as it sits today, including
making it messy, and then clean it up by extending the view class later.
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- The opposition to namespace declarations is whiny, as they are the
standard way to make XML extensible. Unless we are going to quit
using XML, outlawing namespaces would be equivalent
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I'm not arguing (here) against refactoring the namespaces in which
core directives are declared. I'm arguing against the idea that
namespaces are bad in general.
I'm not arguing
in Zope
3?
The policy seems to be that the end user should *never* see the
traceback, unless she selects the '++skin++Debug' skin *and* the admin
configures inclusion of the 'zope.app.debug' package.
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Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:02:19PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| Sidnei da Silva wrote:
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| My original
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Unauthorized, but that is not mandated.
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Hanno Schlichting wrote:
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Heh, only with Plone, where PTS spews tons of useless gunk at INFO level.
Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG
level).
Note, that I fixed this in PTS svn
) is Oh, it's running - but where? How do I connect to
it?.
Zope tells you where to connect, but way too early in the output.
Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG
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, Christian Theune wrote that he had been using 'response.write'; I
think the note was in the Twisted Publisher thread about a week and a
half back.
CC'ing him to ensure he knows to respond today.
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them.
Heh, that would be tramline, or half of it, anyway. ;)
http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2005/11/11/0
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used by LDAP is a DSN. Perhaps the authorization system
could map the DSNs to internally-generated integer ID, which would be
the only value actually stored in grant records.
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Ob. note: the performance characteristics of such servers (including
twisted) are not well understood in the context of Zope, until some
brave soul actually rolls out a high
lose
(eventually, anyway).
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with changing it?
Fixed on the 3.2 branch and the Zope3 trunk (Zope2 was already consistent).
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deploying
applications in production.
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