Paul Winkler wrote:
Looks like zc.testbrowser 1.0a1 has a small dependency on Python 2.5.
NameError: global name 'any' is not defined
Actually, it's a function that is defined in zope.testbrowser and was
lost in translation to zc.testbrowser.
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we want to get rid of the term Zope 3 in the future
That's news to me. Perhaps for some definition of we.
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of release tags having their x.y.z
version number as their name, and in the setup.py.
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Jim Fulton wrote:
For example, a packaging of
MochiKit 1.3.1 might have a version # like 1.3.1-1, or, if it is
exciting enough: 1.3.1-1.1
I assume setuptools interprets version numbers like this in a reasonable
way.
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I would prefer that we quit releasing non-source distributions at all;
the exceptions would be Windows eggs for packages containing extensions.
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, I'm glad you mentioned it. I plan to rework the doctests to be
more documenty in the near future and will mention this as a best
practice.
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the eggs?
It doesn't do much of value at all right now. The transition to
individual projects per package has left it behind. There are good
ideas to make the buildbot work with the new setup, now we need someone
to implement them.
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This whould allow us to run all zope.* tests
during egg development.
It sounds like it would build the equivalent of the old-style Zope 3
trunk for each and every zope.* buildout. That sounds awful. Perhaps
I'm misunderstanding your proposal.
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either leave the version on the branch at the last release or
continue the trend of mad bumping and have it at the next release
(which since this is a branch, we can actually predict).
I prefer the last version, but next would work too.
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in the name has to do with the publisher.
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(zope.testbrowser.zope) that contains the Zope 3 bits and
depends on zope.testbrowser.
I think I prefer the second, despite it's strange appearance. Thoughts?
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of everything we depend
on, so I don't have a desire to keep /distribution/ around.
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Roger Ineichen wrote:
Benji,
Is there a IP range which get blocked for accessing
http://svn.zope.org (e.g. Google bots traffic)?
No idea if there is an IP range blocked, but the svn.zope.org robots.txt
disallows all robots, so the effect is the same.
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in the past, I hope the same is true
of Zope. Hopefully, there are also more Zope users to come than we
have ever had.
Consistency is good, but we have to be consistent with the largest body
of code/group of people as possible.
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
Benji York wrote:
Darryl Cousins wrote:
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 19:24 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
I think my next step is to fix some dependencies for Grok to hard
version numbers...
I think that this is a good thing. I recently gave myself quite a bit
grief
comments) if no one objects. Are there any guidelines for the wiki? I
looked but couldn't find any.
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Christian Theune wrote:
From my latest experience and research of when to use exceptions and
when to use return values I'd say let's not use an exception.
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'invalid'
That doesn't give any information about what is invalid though, I'd use
a separate method for that. Perhaps something like getValidationErrors.
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
It would be nice if one could install Zope 3-based *applications* using
a Windows installer. But to ask developers to install all the *library*
dependencies separately using click-through wizards is rather strange.
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zc.buildout will now prefer final distributions over non-final ones.
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approaches will be possible when buildout supports
the only use release eggs option.
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said
that, I don't abhor the idea of an occasional purge of a bad,
non-release egg.
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code for the different platforms to unify the two tests. I personally
would prefer to not see conditionals in the doctest itself.
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Adam Groszer wrote:
Hello Fred,
I'll say silence is consent.
I'll need some time to merge. Might be I should write a test before.
I'll try to take a look at the branch in the next couple of days and
give you some feedback.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Sometimes, using ellipses are fine, but generally they obfuscate the
doctest when you're reading it. I suggesting using the
regex-normalizer [1].
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Steps to reproduce:
Thanks. I'm sure this information will help whomever works on this issue.
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Try googling for zope 3 api documentation... [1]
Try googling for zope 3 documentation.
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Luciano Ramalho wrote:
On 7/18/07, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try googling for zope 3 api documentation... [1]
Try googling for zope 3 documentation.
I did also, the result is not better.
I was overly succinct. I meant to indicate that the first search result
for that phrase
, is windows so
unpopular in zope3 / grok developers? lol
In a word: yes.
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Benji York wrote:
It'd be nice to have a -C option that disables -c for when your test
runner has -c included in the default options (as I intend to do with mine).
I've added such an option. The -C switch makes sense, but I'm not
entirely happy with the --no-color version of the name, any
Benji York wrote:
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There's a little complication: when you have test layers that don't
support tearDown, some of the tests are run in a subprocess, where
stdout isn't a terminal (it's a pipe), but all the output will be copied
verbatim to the stdout of the parent process
Stephan Richter wrote:
Okay, I am done preaching. ;-)
Preach on, brother!
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Saturday 14 July 2007 15:30, Benji York wrote:
Yep, assertions about HTML (or XML) are difficult to do with plain text.
One option is to feed browser.contents to your favorite HTML (XML)
parser.
Right, z3c.etestbrowser does this already. I wish they would have done
would prefer this:
print Introspector(browser).xpath1('//foo')
foo a=bText here/foo
This is so that the browser features and content inspection are separated.
Yep, I much prefer having this functionality in a separate object as
well; it's not really testbrowser specific.
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Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 10:44:35AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
I'm doing some work with doctest right now, and am considering how to
make assertions about HTML/XML better.
Fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/126169 would make my life
easier.
I wonder
Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 03:30:22PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
Digression: syntax highlighting the diffs helps immensely.
Check out
http://svn.zope.org/zope.testing/branches/colorized-output/
I'm very much looking forward to that branch being merged
/
I'm very much looking forward to that branch being merged to the trunk.
I have a feature suggestion: it would be nice to have a switch to say
colorize output, unless stdout isn't a terminal, so piping the output
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[moving this to zope3-dev]
Brian Sutherland wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:31:13AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
Brian Sutherland wrote:
Log message for revision 77690:
Add the ZPL text.
Why?
##
#
# Copyright (c
Fred Drake wrote:
It seems that if the ZPL is required to be in distributions, it needs
to be added to the result of setup.py sdist and the various bdist_*
commands (including bdist_egg).
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we can collaborate on it before
merging it to the trunk.
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the motivation. Deleting tags of bad or ancient releases doesn't seem
particularly onerous.
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Jim Fulton wrote:
I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm
*not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.)
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the trunk around?
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as well, if I'm not
mistaken) without accessing the cheeseshop. We set up some of our
product buildouts that way. We could do something similar for the
zope.org buildouts.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
I personally prefer not working with the tree anymore. If people want
to keep it around, that's fine, but then they should maintain it.
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Markus Kemmerling wrote:
But I wouldn't have expected a
non built-in type, that *also* supports the mapping API, to be
considered as `False` as long as the mapping is empty ...
Built-in or otherwise, empty containers are almost universally false
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Gary Poster wrote:
In that case, would what I released (except that I used -dev rather
than dev) be correct?
Yep. And those that only want final releases would be required to say
so when invoking setuptools (or buildout).
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We don't think anyone is using it, but if you are, be warned that the
zc.twist trunk is now not backward compatible in that you can no
longer pass mvcc, version, or synch arguments to get_connection.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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self.context[name]
Unauthorized: (zope.app.folder.folder.Folder object at 0xb3592f6c,
'__getitem__', 'zope.View')
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help a lot in making the intent
clear.
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than foo2?
I can think of a syntax, but don't know if setuptools supports it.
Perhaps I should look that up. But I wont.
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Marius Gedminas wrote:
Launchpad lets you merge user accounts:
Thanks!
When I tried I got an Oops message. I'll give them time to fix it and
try again later.
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with my work email not
remembering the other account.
So why don't you apply for the membership in the zope3-dev
team and I'll approve you right away :)
I /think/ I've done what you said. Not Launchpad savvy enough to be sure.
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I don't recall seeing automated Launchpad bug reports being emailed to
zope3-dev, and couldn't find any with a quick search of my archive. Am
I missing something, is this broken, or perhaps was it decided that such
emails were undesirable?
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Christian Theune wrote:
buildout alread did not report an error correctly at some point, but
the next step currently breaks then, so it's only a minor glitch.
That sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113085.
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application with a bunch of stock
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was less than 40 characters, the salt would
be the empty string.
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nagging guy' to remind people when
their buildbot clients die?
I'll be glad to nag anyone, but don't consider it a privilege available
to only a few. The slave names are pretty clear (a couple could be
clearer), so anyone can get a good nag in once and a while.
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The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton.
This is caused by a ZODB test failure regarding blobs. zodb-dev has
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It looks like this has been going on for a while:
http://buildbot.zope.org/Zope3%20branches%203.2%202.4%20Windows%202000%20zc-bbwin/builds/163/test_2/0
Apparently someone changed the capitalization of the HTTP auth relm
without running the tests.
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Dieter Maurer wrote:
Python's os.link creates a hard link which will only work
if source and destination are on the same file system.
...and is also not available on Windows.
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to the Ubuntu team.
You are completely right and there is no problem with python installed
from source.
These sorts of games are one of the reasons I (and many others) strongly
prefer working with Pythons that we built ourselves.
Thanks for the good work running this to ground.
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; the only imports of hotshot and
hotshot.stats are protected by try/excepts.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
I once mused about this and came up with rwproperty
offtopicWhich is quite nice./offtopic
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for the builder status) and never come back.
Long-term: attempt to upgrade to the current version of buildbot that
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with that.
Interest is abundant; time and motivation are lacking.
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Wouldn't that change just defer the error until that function is called?
(which the testbrowser tests do)
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Andreas Jung wrote:
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Wouldn't that change just defer the error until that function is called?
(which the testbrowser tests do)
The patch solves my problem and the testbrowser tests pass.
I suspect that means the tests
. That isn't to say I don't appreciate your work
going into this effort, I just think it could be used more effectively ;)
This /is/ to say that I appreciate your work on this, Baiju. :)
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their Windows version and I had to downgrade.
I'll kick it when I have physical access tomorrow.
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Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 05:17:18PM -0500, Benji York wrote:
OTOH, being not very
accurate would make the feature as implemented a bit of an attractive
nuisance.
I phrased it badly. s/It is not very accurate/It may not match user
expectations/.
Ahh, I see now
the feature as implemented a bit of an attractive
nuisance.
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with the passed-in
overrides. That way if new options are added in the future, their code
won't break.
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push/pop operations in
non-failing tests. Perhaps the ultimate pop could generate a selenium
error if there was anything there to pop.
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The tests are failing on the trunk, 3.2, and 3.3 branches. Apparently
because of the recent addition of a Cache-Control header. See the
buildbot for details: http://buildbot.zope.org
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uses this package. And having looked at it, I
generally like the package itself (and have begun using it in a small
project), but if apidoc doesn't really need it, moving it to a separate
project in the repo would be fine.
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Chris Withers wrote:
Benji York wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
I don't think it'll be a common pattern, but it doesn't feel right to
me that a named adapter (ie: one registered with a specific name) has
no way of finding out what name it has been registered with...
Because the same adapter can
actually need to find out all the names with which it was registered.
This seems somewhat analogous to a Python object being given multiple
names. In that case too, there is no way for the object to know what
it's names are.
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in zope.testbrowser
functional tests. If the human readable labels no longer correctly
identify the controls, control IDs or names would have to be used
instead, which is not conducive to good tests.
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Titus Brown is putting together a web framework panel for the next
PyCon: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/WebFrameworksPanel.
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argument to the
get, I don't know if it's /really/ the default, or if it's just being
used as a placeholder so I have to investigate to find out. I prefer
the more explicit version.
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Baiju M wrote:
On 10/29/06, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm really glad to see so much work being done on eggification, but am a
little concerned as to the mechanics. I'm worried that if dozens of
packages are separated out before they are actually knit into Zope
proper, we'll get
Tres Seaver wrote:
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Benji York wrote:
Baiju M wrote:
On 10/29/06, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm really glad to see so much work being done on eggification, but am a
little concerned as to the mechanics. I'm worried that if dozens
Fred Drake wrote:
My first guess is that this is a licensing-related issue; is that right?
I don't know, but doubt it. Both MochiKit and dojo are available under
very permissive licenses.
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Gary Poster wrote:
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Benji York wrote:
Fred Drake wrote:
My first guess is that this is a licensing-related issue; is that
right?
I don't know, but doubt it. Both MochiKit and dojo are available
under very permissive licenses.
Right, but currently only ZC
Jim Fulton wrote:
Perhaps we should change the package option so that it uses the pkg_resources
API to load ZCML files from packages.
+1 I'd prefer not having to specify if the source was an egg or just a
normal package.
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+1
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on the objects when their state changes, but that's not too
onerous.
http://svn.zope.org/zc.sharing/trunk/src/zc/sharing/
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