Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-04 Thread Jeff Shell
On 1/3/06, Wade Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: To bring it to the point: _scripters_ should be able to develop in Zope 3 as easy as in Zope 2 :-) Or at least almost as easily as in RoR or Django. TTW is not a requirement; Chris McDonough's TTB posting was right on

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. Dezember 2005 10:08:03 -0330 Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Another argument against removing python expressions: in Zope 2 scripters could directly modify and test templates, script etc. (also using the skins tool). In Z3 you have to restart the server

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-03 Thread Rocky Burt
Andreas Jung wrote: To bring it to the point: _scripters_ should be able to develop in Zope 3 as easy as in Zope 2 :-) -aj I'd go further and say regular developers should be able to develop faster with Zope 3 by having automatic reloading in most python modules in debug mode :-) -

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-03 Thread Wade Leftwich
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 29. Dezember 2005 10:08:03 -0330 Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Another argument against removing python expressions: in Zope 2 scripters could directly modify and test templates, script etc. (also using the skins tool). In Z3 you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-30 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 15:40 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: What I am saying: don't take away feature that are useful for a particular kind of coders and for a particular way of coding. Don't take away a feature _just_ to enforce a certain way to do programming. +1 to Andreas. -1 to the

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-29 Thread Rocky Burt
Andreas Jung wrote: Another argument against removing python expressions: in Zope 2 scripters could directly modify and test templates, script etc. (also using the skins tool). In Z3 you have to restart the server at least for view classes (but not for templates). Personally I would say