Re: [Zope3-dev] zc.buildout and develop-eggs

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Mittwoch, den 02.05.2007, 09:36 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: On May 2, 2007, at 9:31 AM, Michael Howitz wrote: Am 02.05.2007 um 15:12 schrieb Jim Fulton: Assuming that you have a checkout of the trunk zc.form, then you are mistaken. The version number in the setup.py file:

[Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, I'm in front of the same wall that Fred was going up. ;) I talked to Zagy about the problems we're facing with the current egg releases of projects that live in Zope3/src/zope/ and Zope3/src/zope/app/ and wrote this up a bit: Problems When working with eggs, we need to carefully

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
In a small side note: I still don't know how we recommend using the eggs in a way that says I want the egg-version of Zope 3.4.0 and the users gets those eggs (and only those) that are synchronised satellites and have 3.4.0 as their version number. Maybe a meta-egg that would introduce the

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a small side note: I still don't know how we recommend using the eggs in a way that says I want the egg-version of Zope 3.4.0 and the users gets those eggs (and only those) that are synchronised satellites and have 3.4.0 as their version

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 08:59 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a small side note: I still don't know how we recommend using the eggs in a way that says I want the egg-version of Zope 3.4.0 and the users gets those eggs (and only

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 08:55 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in front of the same wall that Fred was going up. ;) And I ran up against a related issue again on Tuesday, which I've not had the time to write up. - Move the code of

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 3, 2007, at 4:56 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hey, I'm in front of the same wall that Fred was going up. ;) I talked to Zagy about the problems we're facing with the current egg releases of projects that live in Zope3/src/zope/ and Zope3/src/zope/app/ and wrote this up a bit: Problems

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 3, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hey, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 08:59 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a small side note: I still don't know how we recommend using the eggs in a way that says I want the egg-version of

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have stated my goals the wrong way. I find it valuable to be able to predict which exact versions of things get pulled in from a buildout. Me too; that's very, very, very important to me. The current way that dependencies are

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: Each project should have it's own release number. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub:

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 3, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Christian Theune wrote: ... I'm building up on a comment by Jim who wanted to keep those synchronized. That only applies if the code lives in the Zope tree, which is what I assumed we would do. I code moves to it's own project, itshould have its own version

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Ah. Thanks. That fulfills this need. :) Also thanks to Fred who pointed this out. Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 09:30 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: Maybe: http://www.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout/1.0.0b23#repeatable-buildouts- controlling-eggs-used Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg -

Re: [Zope3-dev] [URGENT] Organising the satellite projects, eggs and version numbers before beta today

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 09:27 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: On May 3, 2007, at 4:56 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hey, I'm in front of the same wall that Fred was going up. ;) I talked to Zagy about the problems we're facing with the current egg releases of projects that live

[Zope3-dev] zope.app.twisted.main and zope multiservice

2007-05-03 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I'm really wanting to do more with twisted in zope. One thing that would make this much easier is to have a means of getting hold of the twisted multiservice following startup as opposed to using a different main.py (as I have been) to allow the other services to be added, started or

Re: [Zope3-dev] tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started moving packages to their own projects (manually right now, preparing for doing this scripted) and noticed that zope.index is tracked with a specific revision number. My understanding is that the trunk of the Zope 3 tree should be

Re: [Zope3-dev] tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 12:08 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started moving packages to their own projects (manually right now, preparing for doing this scripted) and noticed that zope.index is tracked with a specific revision

[Zope3-dev] Re: tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started moving packages to their own projects (manually right now, preparing for doing this scripted) and noticed that zope.index is tracked with a specific revision number.

[Zope3-dev] Re: tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/3/07, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a truly egg-based Zope3 ships, it should be a meta-egg with explicitly-versioned dependencies. That seems right to me. Approximating that in tree would be to have the Zope3 tree point at *tagged releases* of the satellite projects;

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2007-05-03 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 937 Blamelist: hdima BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 13:24 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [various statements of agreement] When moving to a release of Zope 3 we should update those externals to specific revisions or tags though. (Tags being preferred IMHO

[Zope3-dev] Re: tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 13:18 -0400 schrieb Tres Seaver: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started moving packages to their own projects (manually right now, preparing for doing this

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2007-05-03 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 944 Blamelist: alga,ctheune,faassen,hannosch,hdima BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Sorry for the noise. This is gonna happen a couple of times when buildbot picks up the revisions that are missing pieces. Unfortunately I didn't find a way to do this transfer in an atomic approach without checking out the whole of zope.org. Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 15:29 -0400 schrieb

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.twisted.main and zope multiservice

2007-05-03 Thread Martijn Pieters
On 5/3/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm really wanting to do more with twisted in zope. One thing that would make this much easier is to have a means of getting hold of the twisted multiservice following startup as opposed to using a different main.py (as I have been) to allow

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.twisted.main and zope multiservice

2007-05-03 Thread David Pratt
Hi Martijn. Many thanks for your reply. I was not aware of your project so it is quite nice to see. I am hoping to try it out. :-) At zope's startup, a multiservice is started that currently adds the servers setup in the zope.conf. I have created configuration for additional clients and

[Zope3-dev] Re: tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 13:18 -0400 schrieb Tres Seaver: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On 5/3/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started moving packages to

[Zope3-dev] Re: tracking satellite project's trunks

2007-05-03 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.05.2007, 18:23 -0400 schrieb Tres Seaver: Typically whenever somebody who knows both decides that the satellite has changes which need pulling into Z3; at the latest, they get updated when doing a Z3 release, I would guess. This is like what happens now with ZODB,