[Zope3-dev] getUtilitiesFor() fools me

2005-05-02 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, I restructured the TXNG 3 source so that the core implementation can be used as package (within Zope 2.8/Five) ...so far so good. The configure.zcml under Products/TextIndexNG3 contains several statements of the form: utility provides=textindexng.interfaces.IConverter

Re: [Zope3-dev] getUtilitiesFor() fools me

2005-05-02 Thread Andreas Jung
18:42 Uhr +0200 Dominik Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, I restructured the TXNG 3 source so that the core implementation can be used as package (within Zope 2.8/Five) ...so far so good. The configure.zcml under Products/TextIndexNG3 contains several statements of the form

Re: [Zope3-dev] tal:replace=default question

2005-05-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 17:39 Uhr +0400 Dmitry Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't 'span tal:replace=default42/span' return '42' instead of 'span42/span'? I think about these cases: 'span tal:content=default42/span' = 'span42/span' 'span tal:replace=default42/span' = '42' it

[Zope3-dev] error checking in included ZCML files

2005-05-21 Thread Andreas Jung
was starting. So why do we have different behaviour here? Bug or Feature? -aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Software Development and Consulting - - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] fssync and export/import for Zope 3

2005-10-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. Oktober 2005 11:25:00 -0500 Garrett Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The export/import functionality people are used to with Zope 2 I suspect the export/import feature alone will be attractive to anyone with production servers, as it enables object-specific backup and restore.

Re: [Zope3-dev] branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. November 2005 22:08:38 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI (this is mostly for the benefit of the Five folks), I've created a Zope 2.9 branch from the trunk as of about 10 minutes ago. This branch is frozen for feature work; it may need some changing of externals to

Re: [Zope3-dev] branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. November 2005 10:55:19 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you also track bugs? I can only what I know of. If there are bugs then they should be documented in the collector. I'm not sure how, aside from feature completeness, we decide we're ready for a beta. For Zope 3,

Re: [Zope3-dev] branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. November 2005 11:25:21 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/collector_contents?searching=yepSear chableText=status%3Alist%3Aignore_empty=Acceptedstatus%3Alist%3Aignore_

[Zope3-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. November 2005 20:33:01 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway if we want to go further we need to schedule bug days. One per week, or something like that. Otherwise nobody will set aside the time to discuss, investigate and fix the current bugs. Right, right, but

[Zope3-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. November 2005 02:42:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Reply-To and Followup-To zope-dev] Andreas Jung wrote: Anyway if we want to go further we need to schedule bug days. One per week, or something like that. Otherwise nobody will set aside the time to discuss

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-14 Thread Andreas Jung
to it (see my email about Tres' bugfix, for example). By the way, in the future, just to avoid confusion, I think release branches should be made by the release manager (in thise case Andreas Jung). They clearly fall under their responsibility and supervision. Jup. So when I see clear the only

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. November 2005 14:25:17 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 00:20 +0800, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: BTW I'm for removing the 2.9 branch for now. You didn't, so I presume 2.9 branch stays? It's important to clear the status

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. November 2005 07:45:48 +0800 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 16. November 2005 14:03:05 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean that the existing 2.9 branch needs to be removed and that the trunk remains frozen

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. November 2005 15:36:23 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delete the 2.9 branch at this time just for the sake of deleting it would be stupid. I hope that Philipp will finish his work soon so this this issue is not so important. That means: 2.9 branch: feature frozen, open

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.application.HTTPPublicationRequestFactory interprets text/xml requests as XML-RPC (was: [Zope] Hard-coded Content-type:text/xml as xmlrpc in Zope (2.8.1))

2005-11-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. November 2005 20:37:16 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should complain about this misfeature on zope3-dev@zope.org. Definitely, there should not be a fixed (not configurable) association between text/xml requests and XML-RPC as text/xml can be interesting for the

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.application.HTTPPublicationRequestFactory interprets text/xml requests as XML-RPC

2005-11-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. November 2005 18:39:39 + Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: For Zope 3.2 publishers are pluggable and can be configure through ZCML. The registration is based on the request method and mime-type. Then what

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. November 2005 07:09:00 +0100 Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are not even getting bug reports. Likely because Zope 3 *just-works* :-) -aj pgpC8hG89OHHQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] Time for a beta!

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Dezember 2005 09:52:38 -0500 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 04 December 2005 14:35, Jim Fulton wrote: Stephan, what needs to be done to get a beta out? Okay, I'll cut it. It might take me till Wednesday, though. Will do the same for Zope 2.9 on

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2.0 Beta 1 released

2005-12-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. Dezember 2005 14:08:29 -0500 Craeg Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using FC4 and Python 2.4.1 comes built in. This is just a play/development machine, nothing needs to be airtight. Can anyone provide a summary of what is likely to go wrong using Zope 3.2b1 with Python 2.4.1

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Twisted Publisher and Zope 2

2005-12-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Dezember 2005 13:57:10 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 8. Dezember 2005 11:47:10 -0500 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Nobody has complained to us about this yet. I personally do not use ZEO, so I could not fix the issue anyways

[Zope3-dev] [ZPT] API of pt_getContext()

2005-12-10 Thread Andreas Jung
I am currently working on the integration of Zope 3 ZPTs into Zope 2. This works so far expect that I get an error Macro expansion failed when creating a new ZPT. in pagetemplate/pagetemplate.py there is the following code: self.pt_render(self.pt_getContext(self, None), source=1) That

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Main repository on svn.zope.org now with fsfs backend

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. Dezember 2005 12:48:38 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just got finished migrating the main repository on svn.zope.org away from the old BDB backend to a FSFS backend. Some quick tests show me that everything seems to be in order, including sending of commit

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Dezember 2005 17:29:11 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 28. Dezember 2005 11:04:09 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you all think? +1 Views make it much easier to keep Python code in Python modules. python expressions should be strongly

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. Dezember 2005 10:08:03 -0330 Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I would say implement logic that allows view classes to be reloadable rather than relying on zpt for exactly this reason if this is indeed something developers need/want (I would love for such a feature).

Re: [Zope3-dev] attr name space (was: RFC: abolishing python: expressions)

2005-12-30 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 30. Dezember 2005 08:22:18 -0700 Jeff Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same would probably be relevant for tal:defines, something like: div define:mammals=here/getMammals define:fish=here/getFish / - It looks nice! :) That's relative. It would call it: syntactic

Re: [Zope3-dev] attr name space

2005-12-30 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 30. Dezember 2005 11:50:16 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm gonna stay out of this except to note that this discussion should be happening on the ZPT list (zpt@zope.org), as it affects much more than Zope 3 (or even Zope for that matter). Wasn't the ZPT list considered

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. Dezember 2005 10:08:03 -0330 Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Another argument against removing python expressions: in Zope 2 scripters could directly modify and test templates, script etc. (also using the skins tool). In Z3 you have to restart the server

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Januar 2006 07:36:35 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the future, if someone introduces a major change, they *must* be committed to be available to deal with issues that arise during the release cycle. Perhaps we need to pick different release dates to avoid holidays.

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Januar 2006 10:31:03 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: ... The basic problem with the windows release is that there is currently nobody in charge for the windows release (although Tim is again doing working on the Windows side, ALL HAIL TIM). I'll

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: ZConfig and other formats for ZCML

2006-01-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 18:29:18 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the intended audience of ZCML is a very different audience - developers versus sysadmins. This separation is artificial. I've never seen a single Zope installation where a system administrator had to care

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: ZConfig and other formats for ZCML

2006-01-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 19:06:02 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, this whole discussion may be moot; Jim's proposal is rather hard to interpret for people in this thread, so now I don't know anymore what he's proposing. :) I agree. I seconds Philipps proposal to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release schedule and deprecation decisions

2006-02-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Februar 2006 12:11:08 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: tal:define=... considered harmful?

2006-02-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. Februar 2006 19:18:51 +0100 Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=# tal:attributes=href here/absolute_url; title here/title; id here/getId tal:content=here/TitleTitle/a I could write this: a href=here/absolute_url id=here/getId

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. Februar 2006 21:57:46 -0500 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 27 February 2006 10:37, Jim Fulton wrote: 1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually    replace Zope 2 2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5. As you probably know

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 16:06:55 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think focusing on one app server and a dedicated set of libraries would be a good alternative to two concurring app servers. +1 -aj pgp3JPYef1z8N.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. März 2006 21:26:30 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/UseConfigParserForHighLevelConfiguration Is a proposal for using ConfigParser, rather than ZConfig for high-level configuration. Comments welcome. -1 The right way would be to

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. März 2006 13:56:38 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The right way would be to refactor ZConfig and decouple it in a reasonable way from its dependencies. I think this would be a major rewrite. Possibly but I don't consider that to be a strong argument for introducing a

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. März 2006 14:43:48 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no question that ZConfig has the problems you described. But I consider such a flat representation as poor and a step back instead of a step forward (independent of the effort needed to simply and refactor

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. März 2006 06:51:00 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My $.02: I suspect it might be better to just use XML than configparser as a ZConfig replacement. The config format is a stretch under CP due to the lack of hierarchy. I'm beginning to think the don't make admins

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-11 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. März 2006 18:21:16 +0530 baiju m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether there is something for Zope, anyway just posting. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/f77979a d0e1dacd0/b97cc6d6af9439d6?tvc=2q=turbogears+configobj#b97cc6d6af9439d6

[Zope3-dev] Moving to docutils 0.4.0?

2006-03-13 Thread Andreas Jung
I would like to update Docutils for Zope 2 trunk and Zope 3 trunk to v 0.4.0. Any objections for - importing docutils as top-level module on svn.zope.org - replacing src/docutils with an svn:externals definition ? Andreas pgpXIknsX6Wpy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope3-dev] Broken Tests

2006-03-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. März 2006 16:49:27 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like revision 65953 (updated to Docutils 0.4.0) broke the unit tests. For details see http://buildbot.zope.org:8002/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Linux%20zc-buildbot/b uilds/382/test/0 Andreas, do you have any idea why

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, www.zopyx.de

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. März 2006 07:27:54 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used schemas multiple times to represent hierarchies, most recently in the zf.zscp work, where I parse XML files using a schema or a set thereof. You simply use the Object field to connect a sub-schema to a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. März 2006 17:17:12 + Laurence Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that everyone here in pythonland seems to hate xml, Nothing but a stupid rumor :-) it may not be pretty, but we have to use it for at least some things anyway. We probably all spend quite a bit of our time

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: Feature Freeze May 1

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 08:55:26 -0400 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that the feature freeze for the June release is May 1! That is only 10 days away! New features should be check in in a *stable* form by then. While we won't necessarily do a beta release then, anything

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope and a RDB

2006-05-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 6. Mai 2006 10:12:21 +0200 John Catt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, JSR 170 http://www.cmswatch.com/Feature/123 http://www.artima.com/lejava/articles/contentrepository3.html seems to be the next standard of the CMS world. Wouldn't be a good thing to make Zope 3 compatible with this

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.3.0 beta 1 released!

2006-05-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Mai 2006 11:02:33 +0530 baiju m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/9/06, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.3.0 beta 1. Congratulations to all worked behind this release! I was trying to install this release

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:36:06 -0400 Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Zope 2.8 is still available for stable download ... so we currently have 7 branches to watch out for. Yes, but in most cases a fix only affects only Zope 2 or Zope 3. So we are back to 3. -aj -- ZOPYX

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:35:48 -0400 Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:30:58PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 6/18/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1, I'd like some way to easily know when a release is no longer maintained. i.e., what's the X in the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Juni 2006 16:25:32 +0200 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Juni 2006 11:25:05 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It's dead from a maintenance point of view. If you still want to maintain it, be our guest. But you yourself said that maintaining too many branches is madness. My point is that

[Zope3-dev] State of Zope 3.3?

2006-07-02 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, could someone please summarize the current state of Zope 3.3? When can we produced with the next releases? We are currently running a bit late behind our original schedule :-) Andreas pgpCDQqRbcoyW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] The bug fixing problem

2006-07-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. Juli 2006 09:33:33 -0400 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll note that *none* of the solutions include tests. Tests are often the bulk of the work. A submitter should not assume that just because a patch is provided, than someone only has to check it in. Submitter do

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Should PageTemplate._text be a unicode or an encoded string in Zope 2.9.3?

2006-07-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Juli 2006 15:34:01 +0200 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, pagetemplate files are another thing. They have to deal with the lack of charset information of a filesystem file and what they do once they load the data is even another thing. Even filesystem pagetemplates

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: lovely.rating/ Initial import from Lovely Systems repository

2006-08-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. August 2006 08:36:55 -0400 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jodok Batlogg wrote: Log message for revision 69426: Initial import from Lovely Systems repository Changed: A lovely.rating/ This package appears to depend on GPLed software (schooltool, specifically:

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: lovely.rating/ Initial import from Lovely Systems repository

2006-08-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. August 2006 15:42:41 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, nothing is said about dependency on GPL-ed code. That's a different debate. It's strictly not against rules, but it does mean one expectation is broken: one might want to expect that all code in the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: lovely.rating/ Initial import from Lovely Systems repository

2006-08-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. August 2006 01:11:44 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The appropriate thing here would be to remove the code which depends on the GPL, and then ask the foundation's permission before readding it. In the meanwhile, codespeak.net might provide a reasonable place from which

[Zope3-dev] Testbrowser failure

2006-08-19 Thread Andreas Jung
Benji, when running the Zope 2.10b2 unittests I see the following tests failing (however this is not a blocker for the 2.10b2 release): Failure in test test_strip_linebreaks_from_textarea (zope.testbrowser.tests) Failed doctest test for

Re: [Zope3-dev] Testbrowser failure

2006-08-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. August 2006 17:25:39 +0530 Baiju M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is already fixed according to: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/645 The fix is in 'ClientForm.py', this file is *not* set as an svn:external in Zope 2. Just setting this as svn:external to Zope 3.3 will fix

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. September 2006 14:13:05 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you check in a bug fix, you almost always need to: * Check in the fix on the current release branch branches(!). For Zope 2 we actually maintain 2.10, 2.9 and still a bit 2.8. -aj pgp2jdg3pXfMa.pgp

[Zope3-dev] Release schedule for Zope 2.11/3.4?

2006-09-12 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi all, since we are three month late with the current releas, it would make sense to reschedule Zope 2.11/3.4 for July (or was it June) next yr?! If we want to stick with the half-yr cycles, we need to schedule the next release for around March/April next yr. Thoughts? Andreas

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Release schedule for Zope 2.11/3.4?

2006-09-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. September 2006 12:28:10 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: since we are three month late with the current releas, it would make sense to reschedule Zope 2.11/3.4 for July (or was it June) next yr?! Is the reasoning here that since a release cycle

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Release schedule for Zope 2.11/3.4?

2006-09-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. September 2006 13:06:05 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 12. September 2006 12:28:10 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Anyway, if the main thing holding up *this* release is bugfixes, doing a new release in 3 months

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Release schedule for Zope 2.11/3.4?

2006-09-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. September 2006 16:55:31 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think we should just release the trunk every six months (with a list of known bugs) and that be it. (I'm speaking of Zope 3 here, I don't know enough about the dynamics of the Zope 2 ecosystem to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Release management refinements

2006-09-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. September 2006 20:12:50 +0200 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-13 11:05 +0200: Over the last couple of days we've been discussing Zope's new release cycle and the release management. I would like to sum up what seems to be the gist

[Zope3-dev] Naming tags

2006-09-17 Thread Andreas Jung
The SVN tag names are bit confusing an inconsistent. The tagname for the ZODB release used for Zope 3.3.0rc1 is '3.7-Zope-3.3.0rc1'. Since we want to use the same release for Zope 2.10.0rc1 I don't like that Zope 3.3 appears within in the tag name. I would appreciate it if we could stick with

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. September 2006 16:17:54 -0400 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should definitely try to *support* Python 2.5, but we can't require it till Zope 2 has been certified for it. Why isn't Python 2.5 even supported at present? There are lots of test failures. Also, untrusted

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Is there an alternative to zdaemon?

2006-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On 22. Dezember 2006 15:55:48 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has 2 major disadvantages: - It is ours. :) We are bearing the burden of maintaining it. This is offset by the fact that it hasn't required much maintenance.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Some ZPT insights needed

2007-01-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 6. Januar 2007 12:15:19 -0500 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:03, Andreas Jung wrote: returns always unicode for non-strings but keeps standard Python strings as they are. I think we always require to return unicode text within Zope 3, which

[Zope3-dev] SOAP support?

2007-01-07 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, I am actually looking at options for bringing SOAP support into Zope 2. Is there some SOAP infrastructure available in Zope 3 (or some add-ons) and might be re-used in a reasonable way? Andreas pgp3pdt4srmvH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SOAP support?

2007-01-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Januar 2007 10:42:34 -0330 Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 14:54 -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/ I think that an add-on product which provided a SOAP server, implementing one of the competing semantics,

[Zope3-dev] zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-13 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, the XMLParser.parseString() method raises an exception File /opt/python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/unittest.py, line 260, in run testMethod() File /Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope/Zope/lib/python/zope/tal/tests/test_xmlparser.py, line 127, in test_xx self._run_check(xml, ()) File

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Januar 2007 10:48:06 +0100 Bernd Dorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if this behavior is intentional?! Is the XMLParser supposed to deal with unicode strings or will it only accept a standard Python string? A workaround inside parseString() would to check for unicode and

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. Januar 2007 13:26:16 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you propose to parse the following unicode string? u?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?foo / If your parser is unicode-aware then the encoding of the preamble does not matter since you have already

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. Januar 2007 14:52:42 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Gmane isn't updating so I can't really reply to the message (not visible in gmane) that I want to, but I saw the following solution proposed: def ourparse(text): if isinstance(text, unicode): text

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. Januar 2007 15:44:01 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, On 1/15/07, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] ok, got it. But this problem can be solved easily by changing the encoding within the preamble. I would say refusing to guess and bailing out

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. Januar 2007 22:15:46 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that: u?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?fooSome non-ascii text/foo is confusing at best. One part of this says it's a unicode string, the other part says it's in encoding latin-1. The string

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. Januar 2007 14:12:46 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am replying to the three proposals. First I have to kick the proposal of Tres (UTF-8 storage). We want unicode as internal representation for any kind of ZPT (both text/html and text/xml). Supporting unicode

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Januar 2007 22:49:11 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-1-17 17:48 +0100: ... So Martijn's and my proposal remain. They are not very different. In the end the behavior is almost identical. But I will adopt your suggestion to remove

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.tal.xmlparser.XMLParser() dislikes unicode

2007-01-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Januar 2007 08:29:57 -0500 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/18/07, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're faster with new Zope versions than the W3C with any standard. So? The recommendation for XML 1.1 is already a done deal (a second edition was published last

[Zope3-dev] [zope.testing] testbrowser/browser importing 'test' conflicts with Zope 2 testrunner

2007-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, the Zope 2 testrunner has a problem with zope.testing: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2268 testbrowser/browser.py tries a from test import pystone import it picks up the test.py of the Zope 2 testrunner that tries to re-add some configuration options to testrunner.setup causing the

Re: [Zope3-dev] [zope.testing] testbrowser/browser importing 'test' conflicts with Zope 2 testrunner

2007-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Januar 2007 14:35:53 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: the Zope 2 testrunner has a problem with zope.testing: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2268 testbrowser/browser.py tries a from test import pystone import it picks up the test.py of the Zope 2

Re: [Zope3-dev] [zope.testing] testbrowser/browser importing 'test' conflicts with Zope 2 testrunner

2007-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Januar 2007 14:41:53 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that change just defer the error until that function is called? (which the testbrowser tests do) The patch solves my problem and the testbrowser tests pass. Andreas pgpivN2G5VcEl.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [Zope3-dev] [zope.testing] testbrowser/browser importing 'test' conflicts with Zope 2 testrunner

2007-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Januar 2007 15:08:49 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 19. Januar 2007 14:41:53 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't that change just defer the error until that function is called? (which the testbrowser tests do) The patch solves

[Zope3-dev] [German Zope Conference] Call for papers open

2007-01-31 Thread Andreas Jung
From: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], zope@zope.org, zope-announce@zope.org, zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-Annce] [German Zope Conference] Call for Papers open Date-Sent: 1. Februar 2007 08:06:52 Dear Zope Community, the eighth Zope conference organized by the German

Re: [Zope3-dev] z3c.sqlalchemy questions

2007-03-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. März 2007 11:12:19 +0100 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I saw Andreas Jung checked in z3c.sqlalchemy. Cool! Some questions though: * how is this different from zalchemy? It's providers better control about the mapper generation and should cover all

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope? PostgreSQL

2007-04-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. April 2007 09:20:14 -0400 Ariel Eduardo Morales Malpica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm working on a project and I'm using ZODB but my mentor advices me that this model of database will be so big after one or two years. He consider that because ZODB works with transactions and

Re: [Zope3-dev] A thought on backward compatibility and minimum versions

2007-05-31 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 31. Mai 2007 20:08:02 +0200 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-5-31 10:12 -0400: In thinking about how we might specify that we want to depend on major versions but sometimes need to specify minimum versions, the following occurred to me: - Suppose that we

[Zope3-dev] Can we have a 3.2.3 and 3.3.2 release?

2007-06-24 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, I am currently trying to build the next Zope 2.9 and Zope 2.10 releases. I would like to ship the release with the latest Zope 3.2 and 3.3 *tagged* releases. At least Zope 2.9 refers (because of a bugfix) to zope.interface on the 3.2 branch. I definitely won't make 2.X releases with a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. Juni 2007 11:36:23 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've tended to use system python against some better advice, but use but leave it clean since I am using buildouts. This really has had more to do with the convenience of using the system package tools for upgrading

[Zope3-dev] [zope.sendmail] added encryption support

2007-08-18 Thread Andreas Jung
I added encryption support (SSL/TLS) to zope.sendmail on a branch: http://svn.zope.org/zope.sendmail/branches/ajung-encryption-branch/ I would appreciate it if someone could test it against their own SMTP servers since I could test it only against my own SMTP server. Tnx, Andreas

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/setup.py using pypi as homepage instead of svn.zope.org

2007-08-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 20. August 2007 20:22:50 -0400 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2007 17:03, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: * Please also don't forget to add a changelog entry in README.txt, especially if you're adding features. If there's no README.txt yet, this is a

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. August 2007 02:37:01 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/maintaining-so ftware.txt Thanks for writing this excellent guide. However I am personally unclear about specifying the dependencies and

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. August 2007 09:25:14 -0400 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007 20:37, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I would like to get your comments on it. No matter what this evolves to, I wouldn't mind eventually seeing it set in stone with your blessings, so

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. August 2007 12:21:24 -0400 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/07, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should not be too pendantic when it comes to coding styles. I assume that most contributors to Zope 3 or Zope components know how to write code the Zope 3 way

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. August 2007 19:27:23 +0200 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very stupid to prescribe whilespace rules and Whitespace rules have a major impact on the readability of code. Readability is a major point when we talk of code quality. Readable code does not make code

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. August 2007 19:55:35 +0200 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-8-24 19:35 +0200: ... Whitespace rules have a major impact on the readability of code. Readability is a major point when we talk of code quality. Readable code does not make code

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Guide for maintaining software in the Zope repository

2007-08-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. August 2007 08:51:44 -0400 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred Drake wrote: On 8/24/07, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you prefer consistency, then we really should be staying with the Zope 3 style guide, This, of course, all depends on the answer to the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [StabilizeEggPackages] (edit) Is that all that has to be done in setup.py?

2007-08-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 29. August 2007 16:15:36 +0200 Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like the overly long PyPI pages, but I do really like having easily browsable documentation online. PyPI is the only places where that is possible at the moment. Pointing people to svn.zope.org to read

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