[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/broken/broken.pt Fixed a typo.

2005-05-17 Thread Benji York
because the class' module, -- Benji York Sr. Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] status of zc.page?

2005-06-16 Thread Benji York
on 2.4 anyway, and zc.page won't be in 3.1 we should just say that zc.page requires 2.4. If we get overwhelming interest in running it on 2.3, we (or a volunteer) will back port it. And as a side effect Martijn will get to use the decorators the right way. :) -- Benji York Sr. Software

Re: [Zope3-dev] Heads up: zope.app.intid and zope.app.keyreference are now op

2005-06-16 Thread Benji York
(NUM_ID_BITS-NUM_TIME_BITS) | counter assert result = BIGGEST_ID yield result last_time = current_time getId = ids().next This give you as many unique IDs you could need, but the resulting ID would have to be stored on the object, just like the GUID would. -- Benji York

Re: [Zope3-dev] interaction between LocationProxy and IIntId utility

2005-07-07 Thread Benji York
annotations, or a BTree somewhere). So, instead of things getting proxied when they don't provide ILocation, they would instead be adapted. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

Re: [Zope3-dev] How to shutdown Zope3 gracefully?

2005-07-19 Thread Benji York
the Python standard library module atexit. In summary: It might be nice if Z3 closed file handles and waited for outstanding requests to be handled, but the current shutdown story is perfectly safe. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] How to shutdown Zope3 gracefully?

2005-07-19 Thread Benji York
there (and haven't yet, as that's how I always shut down Zope 3 on Windows) snip code appears to be the same thing the Z3 Shutdown server button does, and at least lets Python exit cleanly. Right. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] #316 : Looking for windows users

2005-07-25 Thread Benji York
to be related though. http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/316/ I don't know if they're related, but the command line in the issue does use doubled backslashes, which definitely won't work. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: translate() default value

2005-07-26 Thread Benji York
('my message text', text='my message text') Perhaps a switch would be more appropriate. Something like (with a better parameter name): translate('my message text', text_is_default=True) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

[Zope3-dev] Re: translate() default value

2005-07-26 Thread Benji York
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Well, I understood Dmitry's original posting (the start of the thread), that translate('my message text') would be made equivalent to translate('my message text', default='my message text') Oh, that makes more sense. -- Benji York Senior Software

[Zope3-dev] The Package Formerly Known as zc.mechtest

2005-07-27 Thread Benji York
to add more tests soon. If anyone wants to help, feel free to email me. :) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/wfmc/process.py Developed nicer, human-readable representations of several classes. Hope

2005-07-29 Thread Benji York
, and not on the others? (I personally like angle brackets better, to be consistent with Python.) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/publisher/browser/menumeta.py Create a new action to check the view existence within the addMenuItem directive (XXX not finished)

2005-07-29 Thread Benji York
for 3.2? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 Repository State

2005-07-30 Thread Benji York
not force that requirement on them. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] zope.testbrowser

2005-08-01 Thread Benji York
Now that 3.1 has been branched, I was planning on merging zope.testbrowser into the trunk, but because it depends on 2.4 I'm unsure about that now. Should I just merge it and back port it to 2.3 if necessary, or should I just wait and see? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope

[Zope3-dev] zope.testbrowser Proposal

2005-08-01 Thread Benji York
I've put up the first cut of a proposal to include zope.testbrowser in 3.2 at http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/BrowserObjectForFunctionalTests -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.testbrowser

2005-08-01 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: I'd rather not see it force a 2.4 requirement in 3.2. Definitely. If it's the only thing in 3.2 that wants 2.4, then it'll be back ported. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] security frustrations

2005-08-09 Thread Benji York
Martijn Faassen wrote: * after object creation but before the object is added, various things are done to the object. * authorization error: user cannot access various attributes. If these things are done by subscribers, would using trusted subscribers help? -- Benji York Senior Software

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/tlotze/src/zope/interface/interface.py Simplifying some idioms, coding style.

2005-08-23 Thread Benji York
Thomas Lotze wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:18:44 -0400, Benji York wrote: I didn't review your entire check in (and I realize that this is on a branch), but the non-use of setdefault there was probably intentional to keep from constructing empty dicts and lists when they may not be used

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope3-dev Digest, Vol 25, Issue 37

2005-08-26 Thread Benji York
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Benji York wrote: Can you give an example of one of these pieces of knowledge? John gives a book to Mary If you store the relations John drops the book and Mary picks the book how will you know if the book belongs to Mary and belonged to John before

Re: [Zope3-dev] zc.catalog doctest failures

2005-08-30 Thread Benji York
Martijn Faassen wrote: There appear to be some doctest failures in zc.catalog as retrieved from the sandbox yesterday: I believe these are caused by not having the stemmer installed. I'm not sure where the stemmer is available. I'll ask Gary to follow up when he gets in. -- Benji York

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/ Massive style cleanup: Move to new raise exception style; for motivation, see:

2005-08-30 Thread Benji York
), but these type conversions are not backward compatible. Of course it's only a problem if anyone is trying to catch the string version of the exception. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-08-31 Thread Benji York
I've added a proposal for Zope 3.2. Read at http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ResourceLibrary. WARNING: zope.org exhibiting some serious caching strangeness, so please comment on the list instead of the wiki. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] Build problem

2005-09-02 Thread Benji York
Fred Drake wrote: On 9/2/05, Dmitry Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now agree that the change is reasonable. It needs a comment that it's protecting against importing *installed* versions of ZConfig. It would also be nice if it used .insert() instead of a [:0] slice. -- Benji York Senior

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Build problem

2005-09-02 Thread Benji York
. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/schema/interfaces.py - add IIterableChoice and note the desire to depricate vocabularies

2005-09-04 Thread Benji York
would be a strange way to iterate over the values, and a source from a non-ZODB back-end really should provide the C in ACID, but point taken. :) That is the way vocabularies do it, something else might work better. Now would be the time to talk about it. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer

Re: [Zope3-dev] FAILED (failures=2, errors=1) on win XP

2005-09-04 Thread Benji York
Roger Ineichen wrote: Does somebody know how to fix this 3 tests? Windows XP, Zope 3 trunk revision 38299 I can reproduce the failure on XP with Python 2.4, but not on Linux (with 2.4). I don't have a fix yet, but if you remove the encoding line at the top, the failure goes away. -- Benji

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot warnings in Zope3 trunk 2.4 remy

2005-09-07 Thread Benji York
failed and their exceptions. We can include the complete log of the failing test. That is currently several hundred lines. Perhaps if we turned down the verbosity of the test runner and then included the logs in the failure messages. What does everyone think? -- Benji York Senior Software

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-07 Thread Benji York
^Htester. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: A Call for Slaves

2005-09-07 Thread Benji York
Martijn Pieters wrote: As soon as my current project winds down (end of this week) I'd love to set up a few buildbot instances here at Pareto That would be great, especially because we don't have any Debian slaves yet. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot warnings in Zope3 trunk 2.4 remy

2005-09-07 Thread Benji York
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/7/05, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It means a test failed and you should go to http://buildbot.zope.org and find out more. Somebody who understands that display is welcome to write documentation for it, because I can't find it, and it's not exactly obvious

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot warnings in Zope3 trunk 2.4 remy

2005-09-08 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: Benji York wrote: It means a test failed and you should go to http://buildbot.zope.org and find out more. Then, at the very least, it should include that as boiler plate ;-) Unfortunately BuildBot doesn't give us much control over the actual message. In lieu

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-08 Thread Benji York
succinct. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] ODBC database adapter for Zope3?

2005-09-08 Thread Benji York
adapter for DB-API connection objects? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot warnings in Zope3 trunk 2.4 remy

2005-09-12 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: Benji York wrote: Unfortunately BuildBot doesn't give us much control over the actual message. In lieu of forking it or convincing them to change it, I'm inclined to let it be. Is it really that inflexible? Surely there must be some way to customise its output? How

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-13 Thread Benji York
in the future. What exactly IS the buildbot doing then? It's running the tests, that's what we're interested in. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Benji York
Garrett Smith wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2005 5:17 PM, Benji York wrote: Garret Smith wrote: FWIW, we would not be able to use this new scheme exclusively as some of our IHeadContent providers provide more than file includes. E.g. we have a menu component that dynamically builds

[Zope3-dev] Re: Testbrowser Enhancement

2005-09-20 Thread Benji York
like the verb/body extension. I do see the annoyance with a continuity loss when using the http function to do the PUT, but the code itself is very clear; I like your current solution. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Functional tests failing on Windows

2005-09-20 Thread Benji York
in your package-includes directory. Remove and rebuild your instance (which is what buildbot does) and I bet it'll work. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org

[Zope3-dev] Buildout in the Sandbox

2005-09-20 Thread Benji York
of a system - a way to make system configuration repeatable and versionable - other stuff I'll be glad to entertain questions or comments on the list. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Containerview Proposal

2005-09-30 Thread Benji York
formatter. Especially if you end up using it and your changes are accepted into the core. Also, Jim has some code he wants to release that depends on the table formatter. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] zcml:condition registry?

2005-10-01 Thread Benji York
Lennart Regebro wrote: I don't understand the purpose of this registry at all, even after reading the purpose on the wiki page. We don't want two people to use different names for the same feature, or worse the same name for two different features. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] test.py renamed

2005-10-09 Thread Benji York
and consideration can be done. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Performance Testing

2005-10-12 Thread Benji York
') browser.last_request_time 0.5 3) the functional testing framework should be extended to allow the collection of total time (again, machine-independent) per request and the test runner should have an option to display the top n slowest requests. Comments? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Performance Testing

2005-10-13 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 12 October 2005 16:20, Benji York wrote: browser.open('http://localhost/foo') browser.last_request_time 0.5 I wonder how useful performance tests are to testbrowser, because over time we might add new features that naturally slow it down

[Zope3-dev] Re: Performance Testing

2005-10-14 Thread Benji York
Tarek Ziadé wrote: Benji York wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: Maybe we can list in the proposal a list of utilities ? That would be good, the proposal could use some more details. Would you mind adding to it some point to complete it ? Oh, sure. I just considered you king of the proposal

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.http.put

2005-10-25 Thread Benji York
sufficient explanation for the test so the next person isn't in the same spot you are now. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive

Re: [Zope3-dev] Freeze Tomorrow!

2005-10-31 Thread Benji York
about how long individual requests take. The proposal needs more work so nothing more will be done for 3.2. - Resource Library We had a tepid response at first, but people seem to have warmed up to the idea, so I'll work on this today. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] New database generation for Zope 3.2 (Was: [Zope3-checkins] Added BBB for older instances)

2005-11-05 Thread Benji York
which is not so easy to fix without a generation. I see two alternative possibilities: In this case a generation is appropriate. Agreed. I didn't know about the other changes. The only thing I would propose would be that the generation be automatically run. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer

Re: [Zope3-dev] New database generation for Zope 3.2 (Was: [Zope3-checkins] Added BBB for older instances)

2005-11-07 Thread Benji York
Dmitry Vasiliev wrote: Dmitry Vasiliev wrote: Oops, we can't get rid of the generation since we need to encode the password anyway... :-/ Even if we default to plain text? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 fred-win

2005-11-08 Thread Benji York
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 fred-win. BUILD FAILED: failed failed slave lost Ok, that's it! I'm turning off fred-win until its connectivity is good enough that it doesn't cause so many false negatives. -- Benji York

Re: [Zope3-dev] Yet Another Relations (aka Reference) Engine...

2005-11-11 Thread Benji York
for the essentials of relationship management to be distilled into a set of concepts that can be reused in most/all implementations, where only the details differ. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope3-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 25

2005-11-17 Thread Benji York
, this says that Torsten will be away for months. Because his vacation program is spamming the list I suggest we turn off his delivery of (all) Zope lists. He can turn it back on when he gets back. If there are no objections I'll get Jim to do it. :) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope

[Zope3-dev] zope.testrecorder

2005-11-22 Thread Benji York
/repos/main/zope.testrecorder/trunk -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-23 Thread Benji York
to be careful that any such transition is handled correctly or we risk flooding Z3 with people (justifiably) unfamiliar with the project while simultaneously disenfranchising existing developers. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

[Zope3-dev] Re: Introspection in zope.testbrowser

2005-11-25 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: Hi Benji, Benji York wrote: I actually don't want to support any exposure of mechanize functionality in zope.testbrowser. Mechanize is an implementation detail (although a very important one) and may change in the future. I think the documentation I added makes

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.testbrowser and mechanize

2005-11-25 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: Benji York wrote: I actually don't want to support any exposure of mechanize functionality in zope.testbrowser. Mechanize is an implementation detail (although a very important one) and may change in the future. I think the documentation I added makes this clear

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/testbrowser/ rework some of zope.testbrowser's attribute names to match style guide; this

2005-11-30 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:57, Benji York wrote: rework some of zope.testbrowser's attribute names to match style guide; this should only effect users if the last_request_seconds and last_request_pystones attributes Also note that those attributes should be added

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/ Bugfix:

2005-12-03 Thread Benji York
-coded URL points to the correct page. I prefer some variation on the previous style (with appropriate correction so it isn't so brittle). Comments/ideas? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Benji York
we could do to make it easier. But anyway, it seems wise to start up with server side ajax views and other helper. I am looking forward for the proposal revision :) Me too. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Benji York
wears off. You are warned; I don't want angry villagers with pitchforks and torches coming to my castle. :) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/testbrowser/ fix bug caused be impedance mis-match between Mechanize and zope.testbrowser

2005-12-09 Thread Benji York
is acceptable. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/testbrowser/ fix bug caused be impedance mis-match between Mechanize and zope.testbrowser

2005-12-12 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: Benji York wrote: In this case we'd have to mark all characters but the space as safe. This isn't the normal type of URI quoting issue, this problem arises because nothing else in the call chain quotes the spaces Ah, okay, nice to have would be a docstring to avoid

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/content_types - ported OFS.content_types from Z2 to Z3 (which is the most recent maintained code)

2005-12-12 Thread Benji York
first. As always, feedback is welcome. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2005-12-15 Thread Benji York
(fullname)\nOSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: \'/tmp/tmp-7nmMV/testsock\'\n\n' I've restarted a test run on that machine to see if it fails consistently. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Linux remy

2005-12-16 Thread Benji York
Tim Peters wrote: I hesitate to suggest that the buildbot run with -vv too, but it sure would have saved Jim and me time in this case. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub

Re: [Zope3-dev] Announcement: the Zope Subversion repository will be down for maintenance on December 25th, 2005

2005-12-19 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: Jens Vagelpihl has graciously offered to convert the subversion repository to use a file-system back end. Yay! I'll reserve further adulation until it comes back up intact. :) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Benji York
the code now. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin

2006-01-03 Thread Benji York
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin. This was apparently caused by a failed checkout. A new attempt has been initiated. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:33, Benji York wrote: As a corollary, it would be time now to remove the BBB that should be removed for 3.3. Should we wait for 3.4? Following the rules above, if 3.3 will be released more than 12 months since the release of 3.1, it would

Re: [Zope3-dev] mini-proposal: make unauthorized exception view smarter

2006-01-05 Thread Benji York
Gary Poster wrote: Make the unauthorized view smarter: call the authentication utility's unauthorized method before rendering the page, and if the request then has a 303 status, don't bother to render the page. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Benji York
believe you can put an egg in dev mode (or whatever it's called) and you'll get a subversion (or cvs) checkout. You can then make your changes, etc. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/3.2/ - Declare the zope top-level package as a namespace package if

2006-01-26 Thread Benji York
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Does anybody care about using eggs with Zope 3.2? It seems like a stretch to call making 3.2 work with eggs a bug fix. But it's probably a moot point if we change the release cycle to be May/November, 3.3 would be out pretty quickly. -- Benji York Senior Software

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-27 Thread Benji York
. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/ Added chapters about the testbrowser to the apidoc book

2006-02-01 Thread Benji York
start an http server on a known port and test against it. If you (or anyone else in the world) wants to beat me to it, feel free. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Benji York
list. I welcome any initial ideas and comments. My first thought is to consider how the impending charter of the Zope Foundation influences things. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name

2006-02-07 Thread Benji York
Mikhail Kashkin wrote: 2. When users searchin' in search engines 'Zope 3', Google or other throw away 3 and search only for Zope Google doesn't throw away the 3. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated compatibility tests

2006-02-08 Thread Benji York
those environments on different OSs: http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/server_beta.html -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Benji York
Gary Poster wrote: Yes, this has been a lot of email messages, but I'd rather hang out together. Please. Just the split/cross posting between -dev and -users is annoying enough. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: tal:define=... considered harmful?

2006-02-13 Thread Benji York
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: [snip description of cross-template communication] that's an anti-pattern Agreed. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman

[Zope3-dev] Re: tal:define=... considered harmful?

2006-02-13 Thread Benji York
. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-14 Thread Benji York
to your regularly scheduled, non-truistic messages. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-15 Thread Benji York
Chris Withers wrote: maybe time to merge zope-dev and zope3-dev? -1 They're still different enough that most traffic on one is not interesting to the majority of subscribers to the other. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: tal:define=... considered harmful?

2006-02-15 Thread Benji York
in this AJAXy world this has changed. Personally I'm very excited about ctal (and like the name too). Getting data objects from the server and feeding them to templates on the client seems like a nice way to do AJAXy things. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Last chance to comment on Simplify skinning

2006-02-15 Thread Benji York
Paul Winkler wrote: I have to explicitly register every one of my skin's 35 resources? If the 35 resources (files) are in the same directory you can use the resource directory ZCML directive. Or am I missing something? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Last chance to comment on Simplify skinning

2006-02-16 Thread Benji York
the Python code that implements browser:skin, but it seems too indirect to me. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail

Re: [Zope3-dev] Last chance to comment on Simplify skinning

2006-02-16 Thread Benji York
Gary Poster wrote: On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Benji York wrote: One downside to the expanded interface directive is that it hides the fact that a utility is also being created. I actually prefer the browser:skin version because it totally hides the underlying atomic operations

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin

2006-02-16 Thread Benji York
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin. This was apparently caused by the machine/process being restarted or loosing network access. I'll restart the test. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: merge zope-dev and zope3-dev?

2006-02-17 Thread Benji York
by zope-dev. Okay, who actually makes this call and how to we set a date? Only you and Philipp were excited about this. Not sure that constitutes a ringing endorsement. Maybe others will chime in now. FWIW, I'm -0. Same here. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/philikon-simplify-skinning/src/zope/app/publisher/browser/metaconfigure.py Stacklevel 2 doesn't make much sense in warnings within ZCML handlers. I

2006-02-18 Thread Benji York
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41658: Stacklevel 2 doesn't make much sense in warnings within ZCML handlers. I'd rather have the ZCML filename and line no. be stated, not the Python module. Perhaps later. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Benji York
experience. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Benji York
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 2/21/06, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, not for the average user, bit if the hypothetical six month bug were found and those tests were decently written doctests, it would be much easier for the maintainer to follow what the test was doing. Maybe

Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-23 Thread Benji York
to structure your projects such that it works, that's great, but that use case shouldn't be a driving force behind the common repository layout. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub

Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Benji York
2 can stick to Zope 2 features as long as necessary so there's no rush to replicate Zope 2 functionality in Zope 3 any time soon. At the same time, Zope 2 requirements can drive the evolution of Zope 3. An emphatic +1. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Benji York
Geoff Davis wrote: * What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears? Fun presentation along those lines: http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov One of the best put together movies I've seen. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-05 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/UseConfigParserForHighLevelConfiguration Is a proposal for using ConfigParser, rather than ZConfig for high-level configuration. +1 This is exactly the kind of innovation via reuse I like. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-05 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: It would be fairly easy to provide a simple schema system for ConfigParser data based on zope.schema for verification and conversion. Good idea! -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] traceback when running tests for zope.app.component

2006-03-05 Thread Benji York
I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised version can be reapplied soon. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: traceback when running tests for zope.app.component

2006-03-06 Thread Benji York
jürgen Kartnaller wrote: Benji York wrote: I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised version can be reapplied soon. Still the same problem after your revert ! The tests pass on my box and on all

Re: [Zope3-dev] keeping attributes abstract

2006-03-09 Thread Benji York
of the last line, if so you can use return property(fset, fget, None, doc). (WARNING: I didn't actually run any of the code in this message, typos may have crept in) -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] Re: keeping attributes abstract

2006-03-10 Thread Benji York
, but I was speaking in the context of not having such helpers available. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

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