Also as a complete outsider, and actually as a nobody-yet: Just to add to this, I didn't see anybody mention http://goldeggstack.org/ Goldegg Stack, although it's not spelled out explicitly, is a kind of "follow me or don't" initiative, a friendly compromise between forking and working within the central process. So it has the potential to change the Z2-CMF-Plone community by not just altering the technology but by requesting that the projects communicate better. Reading over this thread, I thought perhaps this was the kind of consideration Jean-Marc Orliaguet tried to insert into the discussion when he said:
"I think the question about the technology should be treated as such on a technical level, by bridging the technical gap (Five, common repositories, writing tutorials for zope2 developers, collaborating on common modules, adapting zope2 concepts like TTW editing to Zope3 but without reproducing the zope2 skin and templates mess, etc)." and with his references to a "community of interest". It seems like the best analogy for this would be Turbogears. The thing is, a project like Turbogears has the effect of driving interest and support to all the subordinate projects, but it also redefines the importance of each project as being in reference to the larger project. It should be pointed out that, with Goldegg, the stack is in effect Z3-Z2-CMF-Plone[-Azax-Javascript...] . Also, I don't mean to step on any toes, but isn't it basically the case that Zope2 is basically the CMF projects? Doesn't that mean that if either Plone or CPS completed a migration to Z3, that that would be the end of the argument? Wouldn't it then be a question of what compromises Z3 is willing to make (technically, spiritually, etc.) to expedite that process? On 11/28/05, Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, I know that this is possible. But are you really proposing > >> to start a project like this? Or do you mean Five is going or should > >> go in this direction? > > > > > > It (or Zope 2 development in general, which is becoming indistinguishable > > from Five) is going in this direction. > > Just an outsider's naive comment on this: > > These days all of my plone-based z2 products use z3 interfaces, adapters > and views (via Five). I look forward to using more five/z3 > functionality everyday (such as events, etc). > > I'm sure this is still a long way from using pure z3, but with every new > version of z2/z3/Five I hope to get closer and closer. > > - Rocky > > > -- > Rocky Burt > ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com > ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net > News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen.net > > _______________________________________________ > Zope3-dev mailing list > Zope3-dev@zope.org > Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/tristil%40gmail.com > > -- -J. Method _______________________________________________ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com