Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
--On 26. Juni 2006 11:25:05 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It's dead from a maintenance point of view. If you still want to maintain it, be our guest. But you yourself said that maintaining too many branches is madness. My point is that we're creating too many branches ;-) Bascially 3 at this time. As I pointed out earlier it does not take too much effort e.g. to apply fixes to the 2.8 branch *as needed*. Andreas pgpptBSJWQq1z.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
Chris Withers wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after the release of 2.10. We don't talk about Zope 2.7 which is dead. ...except for all the people still using it ;-) It's dead from a maintenance point of view. If you still want to maintain it, be our guest. But you yourself said that maintaining too many branches is madness. There's nothing wrong with software being in production whose particular line isn't maintained anymore. I have Linux kernels 2.4 and Apaches 1.3 in production. What's your point? Philipp ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
On 6/21/06, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing wrong with software being in production whose particular line isn't maintained anymore. I have Linux kernels 2.4 and Apaches 1.3 in production. What's your point? I checked what all my websites run. They are all on Zope 2.5. No problemas. :) -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
On 6/19/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's 2 versions, so far. I.e, current release and last release. Unless we decide to change that now. Is it really? That's how it has been so far, yes. Maybe we should extend it. But mind you, that's more work... I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after the release of 2.10. If somebody else is, fine. Supporting old versions mus reasonably be a I'd suggest there are lots of people still on 2.7.x. When 2.10.x is released imminently, are you saying that everyone will suddenly jump off 2.8.x? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
On 6/19/06, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after the release of 2.10. If somebody else is, fine. Supporting old versions mus reasonably be a Let me continue that. :) Supporting old versions must reasonably be a community effort, depending on if people have the time to do so. We can't just say three versions should be officially supported and then not doing it. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
--On 19. Juni 2006 16:25:32 +0200 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after the release of 2.10. We don't talk about Zope 2.7 which is dead. -aj pgpxH1ETQngYX.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
Andreas Jung wrote: My recommendation: 1 yr deprecation period as it is now 1 yr + X maintenance period for older branches. +1 Note that this should also extend to the Zope 3 releases. Zope 3.2 is part of Zope 2.9 and will hence be used for quite some time. Yet, bugfixes aren't even backported to the Zope 3.2 branch anymore... Philipp ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: My recommendation: 1 yr deprecation period as it is now 1 yr + X maintenance period for older branches. +1 Note that this should also extend to the Zope 3 releases. Zope 3.2 is part of Zope 2.9 and will hence be used for quite some time. Yet, bugfixes aren't even backported to the Zope 3.2 branch anymore... Is there any chance we can create an overview page that reflects the status of what changes need to be ported where and what the status of that branch is? Maybe some kind of matrixy-thingy? However, I'm afraid any page in the development area will get lost in that sea of pages ... :) Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 02:29:14PM -0400, Christian Theune wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: My recommendation: 1 yr deprecation period as it is now 1 yr + X maintenance period for older branches. +1 Note that this should also extend to the Zope 3 releases. Zope 3.2 is part of Zope 2.9 and will hence be used for quite some time. Yet, bugfixes aren't even backported to the Zope 3.2 branch anymore... Is there any chance we can create an overview page that reflects the status of what changes need to be ported where and what the status of that branch is? Maybe some kind of matrixy-thingy? +1, I'd like some way to easily know when a release is no longer maintained. i.e., what's the X in the above formula. as others have observed, bugfixing is easier when you have fewer branches to patch and test... -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:30:58PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 6/18/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1, I'd like some way to easily know when a release is no longer maintained. i.e., what's the X in the above formula. Well, it's 2 versions, so far. I.e, current release and last release. Unless we decide to change that now. OK, but just to clarify: Will we stop having to backport bugfixes to 2.8 when 2.10 final is released? But we need to backport bugfixes during the 2.10 beta cycle? Is this policy written down somewhere? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?
--On 18. Juni 2006 14:36:06 -0400 Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Zope 2.8 is still available for stable download ... so we currently have 7 branches to watch out for. Yes, but in most cases a fix only affects only Zope 2 or Zope 3. So we are back to 3. -aj -- ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone +49 - 7071 - 793376 E-Publishing, Python, Zope Plone development, Consulting pgpIvbmC9paLN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
