[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 released
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On behalf of the Zope Foundation I'm happy to announce the release of Zope 3.3.1, a bugfix release for the current stable 3.3.x line. Zope 3.3.1 contains a number of bugfixes, though most importantly it fixes compatibility with Python 2.4.4. You can find more information as well as a tarball for Unix and a Windows installer at http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.1. And there was much rejoicing! Robert ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: If y'all are ok with it, I'll publish the 3.3.1 tarball and Windows installer later tonight. I vote yes! Robert ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'd like to release Zope 3.3.1 soon. The tests are passing on Linux and Mac OS, apparently there's only a problem with zope.app.twisted on Windows, afaik. Can we get this problem isolated, analyzed and fixed asap, please? We can't delay this maintenance release any further. It's bad enough that a *release (!) branch* has been broken for such a long time w/o having been fixed. If this isn't fixed soon, I'm going to advise to the maintainer of the 3.3.x line to back out the change that led to the test failure so that we can assure all of the Zope 3.3 users out there that we're indeed fixing bugs and releasing the fixes. Zope 3.3.1 has tons of other bugfixes that people out there are waiting for. I hope we won't have to resort to reverting the zope.app.twisted change. P.S.: What will it take to get the buildbot, especially the Windows one, working again? Twould be nice. I have been watching the download page for 3 weeks now. It *says* 3.3.1 is out but not really. Robert ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: P.S.: What will it take to get the buildbot, especially the Windows one, working again? Short-term: I've restarted those slaves, as the particular version of buildbot we use is flaky on Windows and will go purple (the color the waterfall view shows for the builder status) and never come back. Long-term: attempt to upgrade to the current version of buildbot that (hopefully) is more stable on Windows. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Hi Philipp, On Monday 12 February 2007 10:41, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'd like to release Zope 3.3.1 soon. The tests are passing on Linux and Mac OS, apparently there's only a problem with zope.app.twisted on Windows, afaik. Can we get this problem isolated, analyzed and fixed asap, please? I don't know what is going on with the tests on Windows. But I have just managed ( for the first time :-) ), to compile, start, and run all the tests successfully on Windows. Althoug I had a slight problem starting Zope because of ZODB.winlock not working but considering all the problems I ran into to get the damn thing to compile I put this down to my lack of experience with Windows. We can't delay this maintenance release any further. It's bad enough that a *release (!) branch* has been broken for such a long time w/o having been fixed. If this isn't fixed soon, I'm going to advise to the maintainer of the 3.3.x line to back out the change that led to the test failure so that we can assure all of the Zope 3.3 users out there that we're indeed fixing bugs and releasing the fixes. Zope 3.3.1 has tons of other bugfixes that people out there are waiting for. I hope we won't have to resort to reverting the zope.app.twisted change. The thing is I don't know what as changed in the twisted code. I recently updated Twisted on the trunk - but I didn't put this change onto the 3.3 branch. Michael -- Michael Kerrin 55 Fitzwilliam Sq., Dublin 2. Tel: 087 688 3894 ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 2/12/07, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Short-term: I've restarted those slaves, as the particular version of buildbot we use is flaky on Windows and will go purple (the color the waterfall view shows for the builder status) and never come back. Long-term: attempt to upgrade to the current version of buildbot that (hopefully) is more stable on Windows. FWIW, under 'heavy load' the master might kick out the slave [1] [2] because it doesn't get a ping response in time. Not sure if that's what you are experiencing. The workaround is to disable the ping. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.buildbot.devel/914 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1500669group_id=73177atid=537001 -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 13 Feb 2007, at 00:20 , Michael Kerrin wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 10:41, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'd like to release Zope 3.3.1 soon. The tests are passing on Linux and Mac OS, apparently there's only a problem with zope.app.twisted on Windows, afaik. Can we get this problem isolated, analyzed and fixed asap, please? I don't know what is going on with the tests on Windows. But I have just managed ( for the first time :-) ), to compile, start, and run all the tests successfully on Windows. So, you're not seeing a test failure then? Adam, can you make the installer for 3.3.1 again, upload it (w/o publishing it) so that we can try to reproduce it on our machines? Althoug I had a slight problem starting Zope because of ZODB.winlock not working but considering all the problems I ran into to get the damn thing to compile I put this down to my lack of experience with Windows. How did you compile Zope on Windows? I assume you used some version of Visual Studio? We can't delay this maintenance release any further. It's bad enough that a *release (!) branch* has been broken for such a long time w/o having been fixed. If this isn't fixed soon, I'm going to advise to the maintainer of the 3.3.x line to back out the change that led to the test failure so that we can assure all of the Zope 3.3 users out there that we're indeed fixing bugs and releasing the fixes. Zope 3.3.1 has tons of other bugfixes that people out there are waiting for. I hope we won't have to resort to reverting the zope.app.twisted change. The thing is I don't know what as changed in the twisted code. I recently updated Twisted on the trunk - but I didn't put this change onto the 3.3 branch. I see. Perhaps this is spurious then? ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Hi. Michael Kerrin wrote: On Tuesday 13 February 2007 10:00, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 13 Feb 2007, at 00:20 , Michael Kerrin wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 10:41, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] Althoug I had a slight problem starting Zope because of ZODB.winlock not working but considering all the problems I ran into to get the damn thing to compile I put this down to my lack of experience with Windows. How did you compile Zope on Windows? I assume you used some version of Visual Studio? with lots of fun:-) I compiled it with MinGW. I couldn't find Visual Studio 2003 and it refused to work with VS 2005. I also had to hack distutils to get around a problem where it couldn't find msvcr71 (???). So I am surprised I got this far to be honest. While I haven't build Zope3 on Windows with MinGW yet, I assume it's quite similar to Zope2. For the latter I have written down some instructions as part of ploneout (the zc.buildout configuration for Plone) at http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/ploneout/trunk/WINDOWS.txt While most of it should be known to you, the paragraph 'Configure Distutils to use MinGW' might be of some interest. This should prevent you from having to hack distutils and all 'python setup.py' commands that involve building C extensions should use MinGW automatically. At least 'python setup.py build_ext --inplace' works for Zope2 then. All of the other stuff mentioned at http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/Python%20extensions should not be necessary anymore for recent versions of MinGW and Python 2.4. HTH, Hanno ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Sidnei da Silva wrote: FWIW, under 'heavy load' the master might kick out the slave [1] [2] because it doesn't get a ping response in time. Not sure if that's what you are experiencing. That might be it, I've made the change described in that thread to the master, we'll see if it helps. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 15 Jan 2007, at 11:02 , Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Philipp, .../repos/main/Zope3/branches/3.3 fails too on the same test. Buildbot seems to sleep these days. I ran into that with one of by fixes too. Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:37:52 AM, you wrote: On 15 Jan 2007, at 09:47 , Groszer Adam wrote: Hello Philipp, I have one failure here: testPORTCannotConnect (zope.app.twisted.ftp.tests.test_zope_ftp.FTPServerPort DataConnectionTestCaes) What about that? ignore? Shrug. Not good. Does that happen with the Zope 3.3 branch checkout as well? Why haven't we caught this problem earlier? Michael, can you say anything about that zope.app.twisted.ftp failure? We'd really like to get a 3.3.1 release out. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On Monday 15 January 2007 13:23, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 15 Jan 2007, at 11:02 , Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Philipp, .../repos/main/Zope3/branches/3.3 fails too on the same test. Buildbot seems to sleep these days. I ran into that with one of by fixes too. Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:37:52 AM, you wrote: On 15 Jan 2007, at 09:47 , Groszer Adam wrote: Hello Philipp, I have one failure here: testPORTCannotConnect (zope.app.twisted.ftp.tests.test_zope_ftp.FTPServerPort DataConnectionTestCaes) What about that? ignore? Shrug. Not good. Does that happen with the Zope 3.3 branch checkout as well? Why haven't we caught this problem earlier? Michael, can you say anything about that zope.app.twisted.ftp failure? We'd really like to get a 3.3.1 release out. I just ran all the tests on the 3.3 branch and on the 3.3.1 tag and I am not seeing this problem. Adam - what platform are you running these tests on - Windows / Linux / Mac, and also do you have a traceback of some sort that I can look at? Another thing to try is running the twisted ftp tests like so (in the same directory as test.py file) ./trial.py twisted.test.test_ftp which should run the same test you reported but using the twisted trial test runner instead of the zope testrunner. I am just curious to see if you get the same problem here also - and if so then the traceback might be a bit more informative. Michael -- Michael Kerrin 55 Fitzwilliam Sq., Dublin 2. Tel: 087 688 3894 ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 15 Jan 2007, at 15:15 , Michael Kerrin wrote: On Monday 15 January 2007 13:23, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 15 Jan 2007, at 11:02 , Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Philipp, .../repos/main/Zope3/branches/3.3 fails too on the same test. Buildbot seems to sleep these days. I ran into that with one of by fixes too. Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:37:52 AM, you wrote: On 15 Jan 2007, at 09:47 , Groszer Adam wrote: Hello Philipp, I have one failure here: testPORTCannotConnect (zope.app.twisted.ftp.tests.test_zope_ftp.FTPServerPort DataConnectionTestCaes) What about that? ignore? Shrug. Not good. Does that happen with the Zope 3.3 branch checkout as well? Why haven't we caught this problem earlier? Michael, can you say anything about that zope.app.twisted.ftp failure? We'd really like to get a 3.3.1 release out. I just ran all the tests on the 3.3 branch and on the 3.3.1 tag and I am not seeing this problem. Adam - what platform are you running these tests on - Windows / Linux / Mac, and also do you have a traceback of some sort that I can look at? The problem occurs on Windows, otherwise I'd have caught the problem much earlier. Another thing to try is running the twisted ftp tests like so (in the same directory as test.py file) ./trial.py twisted.test.test_ftp which should run the same test you reported but using the twisted trial test runner instead of the zope testrunner. I am just curious to see if you get the same problem here also - and if so then the traceback might be a bit more informative. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Christian Theune wrote: after the initial Zope 3.3 release, we fixed quite a few bugs. I think it's time for a 3.3.1 release now, which would also help the upcoming Zope 2.10.2 release. If anybody has time to do the 3.3.1 release, that would be very welcome! I'll make a 3.3.1 today. -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training 2nd edition of Web Component Development with Zope 3 is now shipping! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: after the initial Zope 3.3 release, we fixed quite a few bugs. I think it's time for a 3.3.1 release now, which would also help the upcoming Zope 2.10.2 release. If anybody has time to do the 3.3.1 release, that would be very welcome! I'll make a 3.3.1 today. Done. Can somebody please make a Windows installer? Adam? -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training 2nd edition of Web Component Development with Zope 3 is now shipping! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 15 Jan 2007, at 08:46 , Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Philipp, Let's try. Hope that .../repos/main/Zope3/tags/3.3.1 is the right one. Yup. Thanks! Lemme know when the installer is uploaded, I can then publish the files and send the announcement. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
On 1/10/07, Olivier Grisel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, that would be neat to tag the zope.* packages directly as well to be able to release them on the cheeseshop individually at the same time. I would have liked to volunteer to package the 3.3.0 version of the zope.* packages but unfortunately could not find the time to do so yet. Hi olivier, If you can find time to a little help, I could keep up Eggs. -- Sébastien Douche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1
Christian Theune a écrit : Hi, after the initial Zope 3.3 release, we fixed quite a few bugs. I think it's time for a 3.3.1 release now, which would also help the upcoming Zope 2.10.2 release. If anybody has time to do the 3.3.1 release, that would be very welcome! Hi, that would be neat to tag the zope.* packages directly as well to be able to release them on the cheeseshop individually at the same time. I would have liked to volunteer to package the 3.3.0 version of the zope.* packages but unfortunately could not find the time to do so yet. Maybe this work could be semi-automatically done as part of the normal Zope3 release process. I am not really aware how this is currently done. -- Olivier ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 release
Christian Theune wrote: originally we intended to do a Zope 3.3.1 release in November to get virtually bug free. I didn't see any momentum on this. How about a bug day? Btw: I didn't want to sound rude here to anybody who was fixing bugs in the last time. I just wanted to express that I didn't see a coordinated effort towards that release. :) +1 to coordinated bugdays. If you suggest a date, I'll try to be around and see what needs to be done for a potential Zope 3.2.3 (and I'll bug people to backport fixes to the 3.2 branch ;)). -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 release
What about next week? I don't care so much about the specific day. Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: originally we intended to do a Zope 3.3.1 release in November to get virtually bug free. I didn't see any momentum on this. How about a bug day? Btw: I didn't want to sound rude here to anybody who was fixing bugs in the last time. I just wanted to express that I didn't see a coordinated effort towards that release. :) +1 to coordinated bugdays. If you suggest a date, I'll try to be around and see what needs to be done for a potential Zope 3.2.3 (and I'll bug people to backport fixes to the 3.2 branch ;)). -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 release
Christian Theune wrote: What about next week? I don't care so much about the specific day. I'd be for Wednesday. Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: originally we intended to do a Zope 3.3.1 release in November to get virtually bug free. I didn't see any momentum on this. How about a bug day? Btw: I didn't want to sound rude here to anybody who was fixing bugs in the last time. I just wanted to express that I didn't see a coordinated effort towards that release. :) +1 to coordinated bugdays. If you suggest a date, I'll try to be around and see what needs to be done for a potential Zope 3.2.3 (and I'll bug people to backport fixes to the 3.2 branch ;)). ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Baiju M wrote: On 9/28/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please provide fixes and tests on the trunk and the 3.3 branch. What about 3.2, dropped ? Of course you can provide them for 3.2 as well. I'm not sure whether it's officially maintained anymore now ... My understanding was that we support: Current stable branch (3.3) + trunk No! 3.2 is maintained. Bugfixes will *first go to the 3.2 branch*. This is important, as Zope 3.2 is not only used out there in deployments but also part of Zope 2.9 which will increase its life time a lot more. Only during release time, we support three branches, e.g. yesterday it was: Stable (3.2) + In-Release (3.3) + trunk No. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Baiju M wrote: On 9/28/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please provide fixes and tests on the trunk and the 3.3 branch. What about 3.2, dropped ? Of course you can provide them for 3.2 as well. I'm not sure whether it's officially maintained anymore now ... My understanding was that we support: Current stable branch (3.3) + trunk No! 3.2 is maintained. Bugfixes will *first go to the 3.2 branch*. This is important, as Zope 3.2 is not only used out there in deployments but also part of Zope 2.9 which will increase its life time a lot more. Only during release time, we support three branches, e.g. yesterday it was: Stable (3.2) + In-Release (3.3) + trunk No. Can you repeat the specific rule for me? Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I saw some updates in the wiki tonight and thought I'll catch up with some stuff too. As I opted to take care for the Zope 3.4 release and Zope 3.3 is out of the door since yesterday, I've updated the roadmap. (Someone correct me if my information is out-dated) Current focus: Bug fixing Zope 3.3 -- Currently, we're aiming for a Zope 3.3 bugfix release (3.3.1) in November, which is managed by Martijn. Everybody is very encouraged to take a look at the collector and fix bugs instead of introducing new functionality. Please provide fixes and tests on the trunk and the 3.3 branch. ... *after* having it fixed on the 3.2 branch *first*. I'm the 3.2 bugfix manager and hope that we can soon have a 3.2.2 bugfix release as well. Next milestone: Zope 3.4 Due to the late release date for Zope 3.3 and the amount of open bugs, Zope 3.4 will be postponed one release cycle and will be released in May 2007. The largest project that I know of that aims for Zope 3.4 will be the eggification of Zope 3. I haven't seen a formal proposal for this yet, but AFAIK this is Jim's pet. Anybody else with larger features that are planned to go in for Zope 3.4? I want to make most of the browser:* directives saner in implementation, without actually changing their behaviour, though. Unless people want to make their behaviour saner, too ;). ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Baiju M wrote: On 9/28/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please provide fixes and tests on the trunk and the 3.3 branch. What about 3.2, dropped ? Of course you can provide them for 3.2 as well. I'm not sure whether it's officially maintained anymore now ... My understanding was that we support: Current stable branch (3.3) + trunk No! 3.2 is maintained. Bugfixes will *first go to the 3.2 branch*. This is important, as Zope 3.2 is not only used out there in deployments but also part of Zope 2.9 which will increase its life time a lot more. Only during release time, we support three branches, e.g. yesterday it was: Stable (3.2) + In-Release (3.3) + trunk No. Can you repeat the specific rule for me? We'll repeat two stable branches, just like Zope 2. So, Zope 2 currently maintains 2.9 and 2.10. We maintain the Zope 3 counterparts, 3.2 and 3.3. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I want to make most of the browser:* directives saner in implementation, without actually changing their behaviour, though. Unless people want to make their behaviour saner, too ;). I wouldn't mind making myself behave saner. :) As we're at it: I forgot to mention that the Blob project is still alive and got some rejuvenation in the last days by making the unit tests almost run on windows. (One problem with packing). So upgrading the ZODB would be another step. Something that I imagine could happen alongside the eggification is to do a kind of spring cleaning and check for the modules that won't be core-modules in the future - and decide how people will be able to still use them. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I want to make most of the browser:* directives saner in implementation, without actually changing their behaviour, though. Unless people want to make their behaviour saner, too ;). I wouldn't mind making myself behave saner. :) As we're at it: I forgot to mention that the Blob project is still alive and got some rejuvenation in the last days by making the unit tests almost run on windows. (One problem with packing). So upgrading the ZODB would be another step. Something that I imagine could happen alongside the eggification is to do a kind of spring cleaning and check for the modules that won't be core-modules in the future - and decide how people will be able to still use them. Yup. There are some things in zope.app (e.g. workflow, externaleditor, zopetop, module, schemacontent) that aren't shipped with a Zope 3 install and don't seem to be maintained anymore. I suggest that if no-one steps up for them they will simply be deleted. There are also some things in zope.app that may be maintained but never shipped. These things don't really belong in zope.app, IMO (boston, homefolder, styleguide, css) and should probably be moved out. Discussions with their individual authors/maintainers will be necessary. Philipp ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3.1 and 3.4
Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I want to make most of the browser:* directives saner in implementation, without actually changing their behaviour, though. Unless people want to make their behaviour saner, too ;). I wouldn't mind making myself behave saner. :) As we're at it: I forgot to mention that the Blob project is still alive and got some rejuvenation in the last days by making the unit tests almost run on windows. (One problem with packing). So upgrading the ZODB would be another step. Something that I imagine could happen alongside the eggification is to do a kind of spring cleaning and check for the modules that won't be core-modules in the future - and decide how people will be able to still use them. Yup. There are some things in zope.app (e.g. workflow, externaleditor, zopetop, module, schemacontent) that aren't shipped with a Zope 3 install and don't seem to be maintained anymore. I suggest that if no-one steps up for them they will simply be deleted. There are also some things in zope.app that may be maintained but never shipped. These things don't really belong in zope.app, IMO (boston, homefolder, styleguide, css) and should probably be moved out. Discussions with their individual authors/maintainers will be necessary. I agree on that. I'll put that on the prospective feature list so we don't forget about it. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
