Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:37:12PM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
| I'll repeat or emphasis that the windows release process needs to
| be simple enough that *I* can do it.
| 
| Well, that's a perfect goal :-) But my experience with doing slightly 
| simple programming tasks on Windows is that Windows will slap you wherever 
| possible - even when you're trying to solve simple problems. I stopped 
| dreaming that anything on Windows works as it should.

I'll add to that that I used to think this way, too, but Mark Hammond
slowly convinced me otherwise.

Today I have the opinion that no matter what other people say, Windows
is actually superior to *anything* I've seen in Linux or OS X, except
for the networking stack and process management. COM, for example, is
very cool stuff.

You should see some of the stuff Mark has done that allows one to call
pretty much any Python object via COM from any language that supports
COM as long as the Python object has a interface declaration using
'zope.interface'. I'm still waiting to see something like COM on the
Linux world.

Over with the bashing, back to the topic now.

-- 
Sidnei da Silva
Enfold Systems, LLC.
http://enfoldsystems.com


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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Martijn Faassen

Jim Fulton wrote:

Andreas Jung wrote:
...

I think 2.9.0 is the _real_ 2.9 beta which will be widely used by ppl :-)


I could be wrong, but if we stick to a 6-month release cycle for feature
releases, I don't think there is going to be much appetite for bug-fix
releases, except in extreme cases, and I think it will be more important
to get the feature releases right.


I expect a fairly normal progression of bugfix releases myself, except 
that hopefully less features will sneak in as has been the case with 
older Zope 2.x releases. So we'll see less bugfix releases, but only 
because we're not fixing features in them. :)


Regards,

Martijn
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