[Zope3-Users] How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Wade Leftwich
Since Zope 3 is all about being self-documenting and discoverable, it seems odd that something as central as a View has the implicit attributes 'context' and 'request'. Is there an architectural reason that we don't say that a View class implements an IView interface that gives the names of the

Re: [Zope3-Users] How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Chris McDonough
It will probably not comfort you that the concept of a view (at least by that name) is going to disappear sometime post-3.2. I hope I explain this properly; here goes. A view is a registration for a named multiadapter. The thing that is registered (the view) adapts two objects that

[Zope3-Users] Where to start?

2006-01-01 Thread Maciej Zięba
Hi :) I'm a total newbie to Zope3 (and Zope in general) and I would like to learn it... Unfortunatelly I can't find any good documentation to start with (it could be that I'm a very bad researcher)... Most of the Zope3 documentation on zope.org is about developing the framework and not

Re: [Zope3-Users] Where to start?

2006-01-01 Thread Duncan McGreggor
On Jan 1, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Maciej Zięba wrote: Is there a ZopeBook or something similiar for Zope 3? Zope3Book is about development of the framework. Could you please recommend some place I could start learning it (articles, tutorials, etc.)? Here is the zope 3 book at zope.org:

Re: [Zope3-Users] How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Wade Leftwich
Chris McDonough wrote: It will probably not comfort you that the concept of a view (at least by that name) is going to disappear sometime post-3.2. I hope I explain this properly; here goes. A view is a registration for a named multiadapter. The thing that is registered (the view)

Re: [Zope3-Users] How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Jeff Shell
Thanks Chris, that actually does make things clearer. As a Z3 beginner, longtime Z2 user (ZPTs, scripts, ZSQL), and corporate developer who is trying to promote Z3 in-house, I am all for the current trend toward simplification, especially of ZCML

[Zope3-Users] Re: How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: It will probably not comfort you that the concept of a view (at least by that name) is going to disappear sometime post-3.2. Views as a separate concept have already been gone since Zope 3.1. It was only Zope X3 3.0 that had them as separate components in a separate