Re: [Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup

2005-11-05 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 09:25:45AM -0800, Tim Cook wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 19:32 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
  I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on.
  After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various
  docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on.
 
 ...
 
  I'd appreciate some pointers.
 
 Best tip is to read this:
 http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage/Zope3Book
 

I looked at it, but the info on setup is limited.  It tells how to
install zope, but not really how to setup the instance, especially
through the interface.  E.g., p. 92 says it assumes you have created
principal.zcml, but I don't really see anything about what should go
in it.  Further, the security framework appears to have been
overhauled since the book was written (probably not in a way that
affects what's in the book).

I've found statements about the different components of the security
framework, a reference to a default security policy, and info about
how to code security.  There's even info on how to write new types of
authenticators.

What I haven't found is info on the format of the principals file
(though what's there provides lots of clues), how or if different
credentials and authentication methods can be set via the ZMI, whether
I need to create a site management folder, what to do with the options
on the site management tab, whether I need to create user folders...

Somewhere, maybe the Zope3 Dev Handbook, I saw a statement that user
names needed a period.  I'm not sure if that's true, since it's not
mentioned elsewhere and my admin user doesn't have a period in the
name and I can login as admin.

Basically, I'm looking for a site administrator's guide or equivalent
information.


 Then go out and buy a hard copy.
 
 Cheers,


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[Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup

2005-11-04 Thread Ross Boylan
I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on.
After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various
docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on.

To complicate matters, there were some issue with my installation on
Debian (using the package in testing) so that some of the products
aren't available.  I wonder if any of them are key to getting things
going.

Do I need to create something like a Zope 2 user folder?
Are all users defined in the principals file on disk?

I tried installing a Site Manager object.  The Site Management screen
shows a lot of entries (e.g., Authenticator Plugin) that say there are
no entries available yet.  I installed some objects that seemed
related, gave them names, and tried to hook them up with this screen.
The only thing that seems to have worked is the unique id tool.

I'd appreciate some pointers.
Thanks
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[Zope3-Users] documentation on Field types

2005-11-03 Thread Ross Boylan
Where should I look for documentation on Field types?  By this, I mean
a current, exhaustive list of allowed Field types and their arguments.

I suspect when I go to the API documentation and enter zope.schema I'm
getting the values, with some translation.  But since those entries
are in terms of interfaces and not the actual names to use (e.g.,
IText, not Text), I'd like to know more about how they relate.

The Programming with Zope 3 Tutorial and Richter's Developer's
Handbook both discuss and list various options, but they have several
limitations:
* they aren't current
* they aren't exhaustive
* they aren't in the online help system.

I'm looking for something that meets those requirements.

The online book, in the entry Interfaces and Schemas | Schema Fields,
begins This document highlights unusual and subtle aspects of various
fields and field classes, and is not intended to be a general
introduction to schema fields. Please see README.txt for a more
general introduction.

I suggest changing this two ways.  First, the Schema Fields section
should appear after Schemas.  Second, the reference should be
changed from README.txt (which is non-unique and wasn't even present
in my Debian distro) to Schemas.  Schemas appears to be the same
as the README.txt that I eventually found in the source tree.

As far as I can tell, no section of the Book in the online help has
anything near a complete discussion of the allowed field types.
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