Re: [Zope3-Users] How do I learn how to use Zope?

2009-06-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Edward Zwart wrote: Grok is not an option for this project Too bad, because Grok was made for you. :-) Zope 3.4 is not documented very well from a newcomer's perspective. Most of it only has reference documentation. Grok is Zope 3 plus narrative documentation and shortcuts. Another

Re: [Zope3-Users] More fun with WSGI/zope.paste

2006-05-08 Thread Shane Hathaway
Benji York wrote: Gary Poster wrote: z has also been proposed. :-) That strikes me as a good replacement for z3c. What about zf, for Zope Foundation? Shane ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-Users] ZODB storage ways

2006-04-03 Thread Shane Hathaway
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/3/06, Reinhold Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am searching for a way to change transparently the storage of ZODB from file-base to a relational database. In general, Zope books state, that this is possible. Yes. By changing the storage from FileStorage to

Re: [Zope3-Users] PyWebOff

2006-03-20 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jeff Shell wrote: Argh. Darn that user group meeting being down in Utah Valley. Don't they consider the fact that there may be Utahn's who still try to cling to a car-free urban lifestyle notion (especially when they live and work on the same block)? :) Tell them to come up by my house. Terrific

Re: [Zope3-Users] Principal annotations

2006-03-09 Thread Shane Hathaway
Tom Dossis wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: Thanks for helping me over a hurdle. You'd think a Zope 2 veteran like me would have little trouble with Zope 3 Maybe that has something to do with it. We switched from zope2/cmf/plone to zope3 early on in the development of a new application

[Zope3-Users] Principal annotations

2006-03-08 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chapter 27 of the Zope 3 book and the docstring for IPrincipal in Zope 3.2 both suggest Zope has the ability to provide a browser view of principal annotations. That would be a really great bit of functionality to have! Unfortunately, AFAICT, the system doesn't work at all in Zope 3.2. The Zope

Re: [Zope3-Users] Principal annotations

2006-03-08 Thread Shane Hathaway
Shane Hathaway wrote: Was this an accident? Did it work at one time? Are there plans to make principal annotation views work again? And how can I edit user annotations in the meanwhile? No one knows, I guess. After spending many days on a seemingly simple problem, I've drawn a blank

Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Marko Mikulicic wrote: On 02.03.2006., at 12:41, Peter Bengtsson wrote: I'm with Max on this one. What's the point? To save a few megabytes of harddisk space? If you don't want the zope.bobo part of your zope3, ignore it. You don't have to use it if you don't want to. not sure of what to

[Zope3-Users] PyWebOff

2006-03-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Hello, I've been assigned to present Zope in a local upcoming Python user group meeting. As part of the assignment, I'm supposed to solve the PyWebOff challenge using Zope: http://pyre.third-bit.com/pyweb/challenge.html I'd like to do this using Zope 3. However, I'm really struggling. I

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-03 Thread Shane Hathaway
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Fri, Feb 03 17:24, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zope 3 / Revolution ? well, how about Zope3, Reloaded for all the matrix fans out there? :) The idea of release code names adds a little spice. Most people like spices on their food, so why not on

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ron Bickers wrote: Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig several levels deep to see any mention that it's

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was Excellent perspective...)

2005-12-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
Alen Stanisic wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 11:25 -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: [...] ZCML is a great way of getting a quick overview on how things hang together. I agree, I found ZCML very useful when trying to learn how Zope3 components work. Oh humbug. Every time I've wanted to find

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was Excellent perspective...)

2005-12-23 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jeff Shell wrote: And I think that's where I worry. With ZCML, name resolution happens very late. This seems to cut down on the problems that I've had with Zope 2 style configuration. If imports are in the top of the module, as most developers are used to doing, then they're executed as the

[Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was Excellent perspective...)

2005-12-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Wade Leftwich wrote: If ZCML (a/k/a The Right Way) is keeping fairly smart developers from trying Z3, then maybe we need an alternative (a/k/a What People Think They Want). Are you sure ZCML is The Right Way? I know its purpose (since I helped invent Zope 3): to combine configurations by

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was Excellent perspective...)

2005-12-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
[Florent] Time and again people fail to realize that Zope 3 wants to create the low level framework right first, and only after that add high level simplifications and shortcuts to have less configuration and provide fastest developer exeperience. Of course people aren't attracted to Zope 3