Re: [Zope3-Users] Web Component Development w/ Zope 3 - reviews?

2005-06-21 Thread Chris McDonough
I dont know of any reviews but I give a personal +1 on this book (especially for people coming from a Zope 2 development background). - C On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 20:11 -0700, Corey wrote: Anyone know of any reviews written for this book? ( aside from the short ones at amazon? ) I'm sure it's

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi Brad, On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Brad Allen wrote: Here is another question. Suppose I'm working with a team of developers. Should we each set up our own separate Zope3 instance, and do SVN checkouts into our own separate, local /lib/python directories inside the instance? How then

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Brad Allen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Here is another question. Suppose I'm working with a team of developers. Should we each set up our own separate Zope3 instance, and do SVN checkouts into our own separate, local /lib/ python directories inside

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Duncan McGreggor wrote: Additionally, the ability to generate a new instance of a project complete with a fresh-and-ready ZODB is of immense value when working on a project with multiple developers or teams of developers. Several times, we have saved literally

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-30 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 30, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Brad Allen wrote: At 1:17 AM -0500 11/30/05, Chris McDonough wrote: While you're developing, it's much easier because the *content* in your ZODB doesn't typically have any value during development. If it does have value during development, you have

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: ZCML, practicality, purity (was Excellent perspective...)

2005-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: Time and again people fail to realize that Zope 3 wants to create the low level framework right first, and only after that add high level simplifications and shortcuts to have less configuration and provide fastest developer exeperience.

Re: [Zope3-Users] How come no IView?

2006-01-01 Thread Chris McDonough
It will probably not comfort you that the concept of a view (at least by that name) is going to disappear sometime post-3.2. I hope I explain this properly; here goes. A view is a registration for a named multiadapter. The thing that is registered (the view) adapts two objects that

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages on zope.org

2006-02-03 Thread Chris McDonough
Kudos for releasing these packages -- they all look interesting and potentially useful. Agreed, bravo!! - C ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Chris McDonough
I hate to cross-post this, but would it be possible to limit this discussion to a single list (e.g. zope3-dev, maybe)? I'm interested in this topic, but my mail client isn't smart enough to filter it out to only one place and I'm sure there are a lot of other people with the same issue.

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope] Debugging doctests

2006-02-23 Thread Chris McDonough
I dunno about sucking because they are quite good for documentation, but I tend to write plain-old unittests instead of doctests when I'm testing without any pretense towards writing documentation. If you test internals of a class in a doctest, the doctest body gets pretty cluttered,

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope] Debugging doctests

2006-02-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Benji York wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: I dunno about sucking because they are quite good for documentation, but I tend to write plain-old unittests instead of doctests when I'm testing without any pretense towards writing documentation. If you test

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope] Debugging doctests

2006-02-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Benji York wrote: But it's of course a judgment call. Perhaps this is just one of those to-each-his-own things. shrug My own are doctests. ;) Sure. I actually really appreciate reading good doctests, they help a lot, and they beat not having any docs at all

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope] Debugging doctests

2006-02-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Feb 23, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: So, I take it that you are a second voter in favor of not requiring all tests to be doctests. If the ZSCP thing takes off, I think test/doc req'ts should be somewhat looser than mandating a particular test/doc framework (something along

Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I think packaging efforts are really the key to being able to tell a story like this. The efforts happen to be couched in a process of converting z3 packages into eggs, but really the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it

Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Peter Bengtsson wrote: I'm with Max on this one. What's the point? To save a few megabytes of harddisk space? If you don't want the zope.bobo part of your zope3, ignore it. You don't have to use it if you don't want to. ... Let's keep it simple, bundle it all in

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Blobs in Z3 anyone?

2006-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough
On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:28 PM, David Pratt wrote: Hi Chris. This is great. I was going to ask Philipp about streaming but thought once I had contacted you I would ask you since this is an important part of large file handling. Can you tell me how far along the ZODB blob support has

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Blobs in Z3 anyone?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris McDonough
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:35:47 +0100, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The zodb code is on the blob-merge-branch of ZODB in Zope's subversion repository. I'm not sure when it's going to land in an actual ZODB release. I'm fighting

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Blobs in Z3 anyone?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris McDonough
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:54 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Actually, stream iterator support is independent of blobs. Right. Also, dealing with long-living requests or dribbling data piece by piece is substantially something different than streaming large data

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Blobs in Z3 anyone?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris McDonough
In z3, apparently you just return a file from your code and the publisher knows enough to send it efficiently. - C On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:15 AM, David Pratt wrote: Hi Chris. This is great! I'll check this out. It would be great however if I could get a clearer picture of large file handling

Re: [Zope3-Users] zql

2006-04-23 Thread Chris McDonough
Just curious: instead of writing a query language implementation, why not use a relational database to store the data that is likely to need to be queried in an arbitrary way? You do still get most of the good stuff in Zope if you do this and it's a lot less work. On Apr 23, 2006, at 3:25

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: NTLM credential plugin

2006-09-13 Thread Chris McDonough
The right thing to do here is probably to just use something like http://modntlm.sourceforge.net/ and trust the REMOTE_USER environment variable passed by Apache... let somebody else worry about maintaining it. ;-) One strategy for doing this is described at

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Reportlab threadsafe solution?

2006-09-26 Thread Chris McDonough
Why not just use a mutex (a recursive lock makes things easier too)? lock = threading.RLock() lock.acquire() try: ... finally: lock.release() On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Washington wrote: Hi I need to produce PDFs with reportlab. reportlab is not

[Zope3-Users] dumping a component registry

2007-09-15 Thread Chris McDonough
I'm having a bit of trouble debugging a failed browser view lookup. It has something to do with environment, because lookups for the view work in one of my sandboxes, and fail in another, even though both seemingly has the same ZCML and code. Does anyone have any scripts already written

[Zope3-Users] Re: dumping a component registry

2007-09-16 Thread Chris McDonough
Thank you much Phillip! On Sep 15, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: I'm having a bit of trouble debugging a failed browser view lookup. It has something to do with environment, because lookups for the view work in one of my sandboxes, and fail

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] KGS Site Updated

2007-11-18 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 17, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I just updated the Zope 3.4 KGS with some new features. 1. You only need to upload the controlled-packages.cfg file now; all other files are generated. 2. The controlled-packages.cfg file now supports a name and version

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] KGS Site Updated

2007-11-18 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: 4. A new minimal/ folder now contains an index just of the controlled packages. This minimal index can be used by compoze as one contributing index. (I have not tested this yet, can anyone

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] KGS Site Updated

2007-11-19 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: I disagree. This is not what this means to me. I think a KGS can receive bug fix releases, which the Zope 3.4 KGS does. However, no new feature releases are allowed. In the Linux world

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] KGS Site Updated

2007-11-19 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 19, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris McDonough wrote at 2007-11-18 16:50 -0500: ... Note that if the KGS really wants to be a KGS (literally known good, it's a matter of semantics, not of technology): - An invariant must be met that only one version of each package

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Tom Hoffman wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. If there will continue to be a release schedule for Zope 3, the appserver It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a name

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 01 February 2008, Chris McDonough wrote: If there will continue to be a release schedule for Zope 3, the appserver It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a name other than Zope. Well, we had to do the classic Zope 3

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. If there will continue to be a release schedule for Zope 3, the appserver It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a name other than Zope. Eg. Current name Proposed name

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I'll take that as STFU ;-) Got it. - C Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 11:06:48AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: I typed four more paragraphs full of markety stuff here but deleted them. *cheers* Marius Gedminas