[Zope3-Users] How to begin?

2006-03-08 Thread Karlo Lozovina
Hello to everyone on zope3-users!

I have a task of developing a web application bye the end of September,
thus giving me a roughly half a year window to learn Zope3 and develop
at least semi usable application.

I took the time and browsed most of the available Python web
frameworks, and narrowed it down to Zope3 and Django (possibly TG). I
mostly decided to go with Zope3 because it looks more like a complete
and homogeneous product, although still rather unfinished. Django sure
does look quite simpler with a less steep learning curve, but since I
have a time to spare, and I want to invest it in learning a good web
framework, Zope3 seems like a way to go. Those who think otherwise, say
so, it's still not late to go the other way :).

My first goal is to develop a simple encyclopedia-like web page, with a
page for adding content, one for searching inserted entries and a
hierarchical listing of inserted entries. Ofcourse, some basic user
authentication is needed, but nothing fancy. So, is there a
documentation/book/HOWTO anything targeted for us beginners that step
by step explains how to build a simple web site? Currently I'm stuck
with Zope3Book, but I can't quite make heads from tails :(.

So, what am I to do to get myself started towards developing my
application? Is there somewhere a nice introduction beginner-level text
that explains Zope3 fundamental concepts and some simple things you can
do with it?

I would hate myself if I had to give up on Zope3 just because a lack of
documentation :(.

Best regards, and thanks in advance.

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Karlo Lozovina - Mosor

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Re: [Zope3-Users] How to begin?

2006-03-08 Thread Joseph Method
I was just wondering whether I need to buy Philipp von Weitershausen's
book in addition to the Stephan Richter book I already have.  On
Amazon it looks like it has a more example-based approach.  Would
people recommend that someone buy both?

On 3/8/06, Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After that the Zope books are probably a good idea.

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Re: [Zope3-Users] How to begin?

2006-03-08 Thread Cliff Ford
In comparison to the cost of six months of your time the books are 
cheap! I refer to Phillip von Weiterhausen's book a lot, and when I 
don't understand something I see what Stephan Richter's book has to say. 
They are both good, even though a little behind the current Zope 3 
version. You will soon outgrow the very short on-line tutorials. I find 
that problems arise when I want to do something that isn't in the books 
and I have to use the Introspector, read the source code or search the 
mailing archives.  This week I spent an entire day trying to work out 
how to do something that turned out to be three lines of code, and 
another day on something that was effectively similar. Very satisfying 
when it all works though!


Cliff

Karlo Lozovina wrote:

Hello to everyone on zope3-users!

I have a task of developing a web application bye the end of September,
thus giving me a roughly half a year window to learn Zope3 and develop
at least semi usable application.

I took the time and browsed most of the available Python web
frameworks, and narrowed it down to Zope3 and Django (possibly TG). I
mostly decided to go with Zope3 because it looks more like a complete
and homogeneous product, although still rather unfinished. Django sure
does look quite simpler with a less steep learning curve, but since I
have a time to spare, and I want to invest it in learning a good web
framework, Zope3 seems like a way to go. Those who think otherwise, say
so, it's still not late to go the other way :).

My first goal is to develop a simple encyclopedia-like web page, with a
page for adding content, one for searching inserted entries and a
hierarchical listing of inserted entries. Ofcourse, some basic user
authentication is needed, but nothing fancy. So, is there a
documentation/book/HOWTO anything targeted for us beginners that step
by step explains how to build a simple web site? Currently I'm stuck
with Zope3Book, but I can't quite make heads from tails :(.

So, what am I to do to get myself started towards developing my
application? Is there somewhere a nice introduction beginner-level text
that explains Zope3 fundamental concepts and some simple things you can
do with it?

I would hate myself if I had to give up on Zope3 just because a lack of
documentation :(.

Best regards, and thanks in advance.


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Re: [Zope3-Users] How to begin?

2006-03-08 Thread ksmith99

Definately get both books. To save $14-20 per book, I recommend bookpool to
save money
http://www.bookpool.com/ss?qs=zope


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