I wonder what is that state of pure Zope 3 CMSs? - Cubic and z3ecm come to mind, see below.
I am aware that sytems like *Plone* offer everything you can imagine for serious CMS development. But being based on Zope 2 (and just slowly moving towards Zope 3 by means of Five) they also carry a lot of baggage with them: * Say you want to develop a Plone product based on Zope 3 (Five): You effectively have to master Zope 2, Plone and Zope 3. * On my debian system (after installation of plone-site) du -h /var/lib/zope2.8/instance/plone-site/Products/ gives me: 19M - that's a lot. Many portals start out as some small projects and might not need all the fancy stuff. Being small in code and therefore easily manageble might be more important. Besides: if they where solely based on Zope 3, adding more stuff to them should be easier anyway (by means of adapters e. g.). Cubic and z3ecm come to my mind - are there more? Cubic ----- I was able to check it out into my zope 3 (svn trunk) tree with svn co http://svn.amazesolutions.com/zope3/cubic/trunk cubic And after replacing some MessageIdFactory occurences with MessageFactory I was able to run it, but actually adding a Cubic portal resulted in an error: File "/home/reuleaux/z3/src/zope/app/keyreference/persistent.py", line 41, in __init__ raise zope.app.keyreference.interfaces.NotYet(object) The former home page http://opensource.amazesolutions.com/projects/zope3/cubic doesn't exist any more. I didn't find a mailing list. Was it ever meant to be usable for some small portal sites. Or was it just a toy project, some experiment? z3ecm ----- I am aware that this is an ambitious joint effort of Nuxeo and Infrae to create the infrastructure of a next generation CMS. But looking at the web site http://www.z3lab.org/ I could find some fancy video animations, but no tutorial/introduction/readme.txt/install.txt how to install and how to procede next. Well the About page (http://www.z3lab.org/sections/about) gives an excuse ("...So don't expect to find here anything usable from a user point of view...") and I saw that in the last entry on the mailing list archive http://lists.nuxeo.com/pipermail/z3lab/2006-August/000991.html someone is asking the same question: "Can someone help get me to a point where I can play with z3ecm?" On the same About-page they welcome everybody to work on the project - Honestly, my interest in a project that I cannot even install is not very high. I might even misunderstand z3ecm altogether: Will there ever be a CMS based on zope3 and z3ecm only. Or will it for years to come just be a bridge techique: Zope2 + Five(Zope 3) + Z3ecm + Silva/CPS? Well I guess I should ask this on the z3ecm mailing list. - but I thought the idea of having a pure Zope 3 CMS was of general interest. -Andreas _______________________________________________ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users