Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.1.0 Zope3 Developer's Book

2005-06-23 Thread Corey
On Thursday 23 June 2005 04:19 am, Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Saturday 18 June 2005 16:08, Corey wrote:
  Maybe I can be of some help by going through the book using the new 3.1b
  and make notes of whatever stuff ( code and/or text ) that could be
  changed to better reflect the changes from 3.0 to 3.1.

 That would be great! The first task would be though to merge the SAMS edit
 work to the master TeX document. I can provide you with the Word files from
 SAMS and give you access to the book repository, which is located in a
 special repository on zope.org.


Sounds great; I'll be able to devote real, actual, time to this.  

I went and emailed Jim a signed and scanned copy of the Contributor Agreement, 
so hopefully I'll be recieving an svn account soon.


Cheers,

Corey
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.1.0 Zope3 Developer's Book

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Munro
On 6/18/05, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 18 June 2005 15:19, Corey wrote:
  Question: with all these new changes since 3.0 ( which all look very good!
  ), approximately how much of the Zope3 Dev Book becomes
  misleading/incorrect/obsolete? Primarily I'm wondering whether it is still
  possible to use the Zope3 dev book , follow along with it's
  examples/excersises without constantly running into troubles?
 
 Yeah, I think that most of it will still work just fine. I think someone
 reported that step 7 or 8 of the messageboard product was still working on
 the trunk, which is impressive. Before the final release I will take some
 time and make sure that all the packages will still work without
 modification.
 
  Right off the bat, I can see that the stuff on Services will be a point of
  hassle and confusion for many people starting off w/ Zope 3.1 and the
  current Zope3 dev guide.
 
 Right, this cannot be avoided. But I already talk very little about services
 in the book.
 
  Are there prospective plans to keep the book updated with the releases, or
  are there simply not enough resources/time available at this point to do
  so?
 
 I am not sure how much time I will have. I am very booked till school starts
 again. I would need at least a week to get everything updated, not to mention
 covering new features.
 
 Regards,
 Stephan
 --
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 CBU Physics  Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
 Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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I would be very interested in attempting to provide an update to the
book, to cover new features in 3.1. I still have a lot to learn, but I
thought that perhaps it would be helpful to pick a section in the book
that has changed (for example, I believe Chapter 20, on workflow), and
attempt to document the appropriate way to handle it in 3.1. As I
said, I do have a lot to learn, but as long as someone points me in
the right direction, I would feel comfortable attempting this.

Is this something that would be helpful?

Alec
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.1.0 Zope3 Developer's Book

2005-06-18 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 18 June 2005 15:19, Corey wrote:
 Question: with all these new changes since 3.0 ( which all look very good!
 ), approximately how much of the Zope3 Dev Book becomes
 misleading/incorrect/obsolete? Primarily I'm wondering whether it is still
 possible to use the Zope3 dev book , follow along with it's
 examples/excersises without constantly running into troubles?

Yeah, I think that most of it will still work just fine. I think someone 
reported that step 7 or 8 of the messageboard product was still working on 
the trunk, which is impressive. Before the final release I will take some 
time and make sure that all the packages will still work without 
modification.

 Right off the bat, I can see that the stuff on Services will be a point of
 hassle and confusion for many people starting off w/ Zope 3.1 and the
 current Zope3 dev guide.

Right, this cannot be avoided. But I already talk very little about services 
in the book.

 Are there prospective plans to keep the book updated with the releases, or
 are there simply not enough resources/time available at this point to do
 so?

I am not sure how much time I will have. I am very booked till school starts 
again. I would need at least a week to get everything updated, not to mention 
covering new features.

Regards,
Stephan
-- 
Stephan Richter
CBU Physics  Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.1.0 Zope3 Developer's Book

2005-06-18 Thread Corey
On Saturday 18 June 2005 01:08 pm, Corey wrote:
 Does the online Zope3 reflect the dead-tree version?


Ack, my bad - looks like this is stated to not be the case right there on the 
front page, sorry!

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage/Zope3Book

It also has not been edited based on Sams comments and editions. 

Appologies for the noise!
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